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#1 caninatl04

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:33 PM

Excluding external (outside the Twins' organizations-- major and minor) options, who would / could be the Twins' DH next year?

 

Grossman?It's a little unusual to have a DH with an ISP (iso power) of .138.

Sano / Escobar? (whoever is not playing 3B that day)

Vargas?

Park? (How was his second half in AAA?)

Garver?? (against LHP)

Someone else from AAA / AA? (Including, perhaps, Granite / Goodrum)

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#2 yarnivek1972

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:57 PM

Excluding external (outside the Twins' organizations-- major and minor) options, who would / could be the Twins' DH next year?

Grossman? It's a little unusual to have a DH with an ISP (iso power) of .138.
Sano / Escobar? (whoever is not playing 3B that day)
Vargas?
Park? (How was his second half in AAA?)
Garver?? (against LHP)
Someone else from AAA / AA? (Including, perhaps, Granite / Goodrum)


My guess is a mix of Mauer, Sano, Grossman, Garver and maybe Vargas.
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 04:34 PM

I think that the era of a specific DH has gone.Most good teams use the DH spot to rest some of their regulars in a rotation basis, or specific regulars who are nursing particular injuries.This allows greater roster flexibility. 

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 05:34 PM

I think that the era of a specific DH has gone. Most good teams use the DH spot to rest some of their regulars in a rotation basis, or specific regulars who are nursing particular injuries. This allows greater roster flexibility.


I agree. The prevalence of 12 (and now 13) man pitching staffs makes it tough to keep a full time DH. It'll probably be some rotation of Sano, Mauer, Escobar, maybe Grossman, assuming he's tendered, which I think he probably will be.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 06:56 PM

who would / could be the Twins' DH next year?


I'd like to answer this question with the title of another thread posted today: "Does anyone remember Todd Sears?" :)
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:04 PM

I'd prefer to leave the spot open for mixing and matiching.

But I threw out the name Carlos Santana awhile back just as a guy Falvey might target. I've since started to get an itch for him, with an eye on him heading to 1B in 2019 once Mauer is done.
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 07:43 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Rosario and Granite split time in LF, with Rosario playing every day and DHing when Granite is in the field.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 09:14 PM

Park and Garver don't have a chance. Neither is an everyday MLB bat.

 

I expect a middling veteran to be signed, and he will compete with Grossman and Vargas for the job. Maybe all 3 of those will ride the bench and rotate with a "day off" regular taking at bats too.

 

The problem is that means it has to be an OF who can play a little OF, because putting Grossman on the bench means he has to play late inning defense from time to time.


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Posted 11 October 2017 - 09:21 PM

 

I'd prefer to leave the spot open for mixing and matiching.

But I threw out the name Carlos Santana awhile back just as a guy Falvey might target. I've since started to get an itch for him, with an eye on him heading to 1B in 2019 once Mauer is done.

 

Who says Mauer is done after next year?:)

 

But to answer the original question, and I'd be fine with Santana, how about Jose Bautista? Probably be reasonable price, and he hits better at Target Field than anyone.

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 09:21 PM

Been thinking about the DH spot a lot lately when looking at 2018. While I am tantalize by a major move at this spot, the lineup and roster is so, overall, deep, young, talented and versatile, that it's simply not at the top of the priority list unless the Twins went all in. TK, and Gardy, seldom had a true everyday DH. There were exceptions, of course, such as Davis and Winfield, but mostly they just put a good bench bat in that spot, and gave guys half days off. Personally, I like that approach; a balanced roster with depth where you rotate guys in and out. I think this team can do that. And let's be honest, any real investment should come first in another quality SP, and maybe a RP of quality, maybe two, before we look at the DH spot.

Nothing says your DH has to be a power hitter. The jury, unfortunately, is still out on Vargas. But what if, especially with his recent comments about getting in better shape, Vargas begins to put it together? What if Grossman can begin to bridge the gap between 2016 and 2017 splits and become more balanced? And what about Granite? He could be a true 4th OF with the potential to give guys breaks, but also DH at the top, or bottom, of the order and provide AVG, OB and speed.

If you paid attention to the normal batting order the last couple of months, you would see Molitor putting Grossman's OB ability in the 9 spot. This helped flip the lineup. He could do so again. So could Granite. Vargas would be more of a middle order option. Grossman's numbers, if you look at them, and I have, could blend his RH and LH production over a full season could not only flip the lineup, but maybe provide a very interesting 1-2 punch at the top of the order. And Granite, again, if he continues to grow and improve, could be a valuable 4th OF who could also flip the order, or hit with Mauer for a nice 1-2. In both of these scenarios, it allows Dozier and his offensive ability, to slide down.

Just saying, I think there are options and potential here without making an external investment.
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Posted 11 October 2017 - 10:22 PM

Sano will probably end up getting the most PA as DH but Grossman might be the opening day starter this year.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 04:40 AM

 

Who says Mauer is done after next year?:)

 

But to answer the original question, and I'd be fine with Santana, how about Jose Bautista? Probably be reasonable price, and he hits better at Target Field than anyone.

Bautista either played through an injury or is done.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:01 AM

I have a suspicion with Grossman being arb eligible, a poor finish to the year, and not much D is that he either accepts a minimal contract or becomes a free agent (and signs a minimal contract elsewhere).In terms of additions to the team, position flexibility is the new thing.

 

Wonder if they can buy low on Swihart?


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:05 AM

yeah, I don't see them getting a DH with Grossman and Escobar essentially without a position home when everyone is healthy. They will rotate those guys at DH and various IF/OF positions. I wouldn't mind it if they got a bat first guy, but I don't think this team needs much improvement offensively. I'd rather spend money on an SP and an RP.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 05:17 AM

 

yeah, I don't see them getting a DH with Grossman and Escobar essentially without a position home when everyone is healthy. They will rotate those guys at DH and various IF/OF positions. I wouldn't mind it if they got a bat first guy, but I don't think this team needs much improvement offensively. I'd rather spend money on an SP and an RP.

We already have a perfect DH type.Sano.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:22 AM

 

Park and Garver don't have a chance. Neither is an everyday MLB bat.

 

I expect a middling veteran to be signed, and he will compete with Grossman and Vargas for the job. Maybe all 3 of those will ride the bench and rotate with a "day off" regular taking at bats too.

 

The problem is that means it has to be an OF who can play a little OF, because putting Grossman on the bench means he has to play late inning defense from time to time.

 

What do you base the Garver statement on? Because he was more than good in AAA.....

 

You can't carry Vargas, Grossman, and another DH on the roster. You have no bench then at all.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:27 AM

I know you said no outside choices, but give me Carlos Santana if he hits the market.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 07:33 AM

 

I know you said no outside choices, but give me Carlos Santana if he hits the market.

Yup, an actual professional hitter in the middle of the Twins lineup would really help the lineup.  

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:02 AM

 

What do you base the Garver statement on? Because he was more than good in AAA.....

 

You can't carry Vargas, Grossman, and another DH on the roster. You have no bench then at all.

You're probably right, but the real solution is to get better pitchers. Either Grossman or Vargas probably has to go. I like Grossman as a mentor--he has a good approach, but he's useless on defense and limited with the bat. Vargas has some promise but is what hs is.

 

I'm just not impressed with Garver and I don't think his track record says MLB starter. Maybe a borderline starting C, but that's not exactly an offensive position. Carrying a catcher to DH limits the roster even more.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:23 AM

I am hoping they sign someone to give a little more pop off the bench. I agree with others that you are hoping they invest in the pitching staff so they can keep a 12 man pitching staff most of the season.