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Twins vs Mariners, 08-18-2012, 8:10pm

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#1 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 06:12 PM

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Twins:
Jamey Carroll 2B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Darin Mastroianni CF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Joe Mauer C[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Josh Willingham DH[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Justin Morneau 1B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Ryan Doumit LF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Trevor Plouffe 3B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Matt Carson RF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Pedro Florimon SS[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial](Scott Diamond P)

Mariners:
[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Dustin Ackley 2B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Trayvon Robinson LF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Jesus Montero C[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Miguel Olivo DH[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Kyle Seager 3B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Justin Smoak 1B[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Casper Wells RF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Michael Saunders CF[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]Brendan Ryan SS[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial](Jason Vargas P)[/FONT][/COLOR]

#2 minn55441

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 06:24 PM

No Span, No Revere.

At the time of both injuries they didn't seem that serious. Span finished out the inning after his dive. Is this a case of the Medical staff being overly cautious? I heard Gardy talk about this on Friday, he said the trainers take them onto the field and put them through specific routines and then it is in the players hands to tell them if they can play. Are Ben and Denard really that dinged up? Or is they just a case of don't rush them back onto the field when we 10+ games out and it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:22 PM

No Span, No Revere.

1) At the time of both injuries they didn't seem that serious.

2) Span finished out the inning after his dive.


3) Is this a case of the Medical staff being overly cautious?

4) I heard Gardy talk about this on Friday, he said the trainers take them onto the field and put them through specific routines and then it is in the players hands to tell them if they can play. Are Ben and Denard really that dinged up?

5) Or is they just a case of don't rush them back onto the field when we 10+ games out, and

6) it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme?


Wow, 6 bum trip flashbacks to 2011 in one post!

Well done minn55441, well done.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:00 PM

Why take any risk at all at this point? These games don't matter enough to take any chance of further injury.

On the other hand, I would DL Span and bring up Parmelee, then use Parmelee to give additional rest to Morneau, Mauer and Willingham. We want these players to be at their best next year.

Helluva a throw by Carson to get that guy at third.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:16 PM

[SIZE=5]Roll call. [/SIZE] Is anyone else watching the game now? I am having to endure the Mariners announcers.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:25 PM

Just checking the game now glunn, after last night I'm only checking in time to time.
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#7 jokin

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:25 PM

Why take any risk at all at this point? These games don't matter enough to take any chance of further injury.

On the other hand, I would DL Span and bring up Parmelee, then use Parmelee to give additional rest to Morneau, Mauer and Willingham. We want these players to be at their best next year.

Helluva a throw by Carson to get that guy at third.


The Twins could send down the #12 pitcher, call up Parmelle/Arica/whoever and then flip a different pitcher when Revere/Span are finally ready. Regardless, if as I agree with you, "these games don't matter", just DL Span and call up another bat already.

Carson is a nice story. Handling his business with alacrity thus far.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:28 PM

Florimon is a more intriguing player than I thought. I had a mental image of a tiny, frail Alexi Ramirez type - but the he's a pretty big guy. The fielding report looks pretty dead on so far too - very smooth.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:31 PM

[SIZE=5]Roll call. [/SIZE] Is anyone else watching the game now? I am having to endure the Mariners announcers.


I think you're getting a preview of dog day baseball attention spans, it could get pretty lonely around here. When even all the mods/staffers have moved on, you get an indication of a team in the process of becoming a September afterthought.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:38 PM

Florimon is a more intriguing player than I thought. I had a mental image of a tiny, frail Alexi Ramirez type - but the he's a pretty big guy. The fielding report looks pretty dead on so far too - very smooth.


I was wondering the same thing. Nice presence at the plate, his baserunning was fast but seemingly effortless cruising into 3B on that triple. Looked like a real take-charge guy on that play out in LF last night. I would like to see him click on some DPs, make the throws from the hole and charging the slow ball, but so far he's come as Seth advertised with his IL fielding credentials.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:45 PM

Carson is a nice story. Handling his business with alacrity thus far.


Alacrity. I like that description.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:47 PM

Florimon is a more intriguing player than I thought. I had a mental image of a tiny, frail Alexi Ramirez type - but the he's a pretty big guy. The fielding report looks pretty dead on so far too - very smooth.


I was wondering the same thing. Nice presence at the plate, his baserunning was fast but seemingly effortless cruising into 3B on that triple. Looked like a real take-charge guy on that play out in LF last night. I would like to see him click on some DPs, make the throws from the hole and charging the slow ball, but so far he's come as Seth advertised with his IL fielding credentials.


I agree with both of you. If this guy can hit better than Dozier, then he should keep playing.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:47 PM

We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:52 PM

I was wondering the same thing. Nice presence at the plate, his baserunning was fast but seemingly effortless cruising into 3B on that triple. Looked like a real take-charge guy on that play out in LF last night. I would like to see him click on some DPs, make the throws from the hole and charging the slow ball, but so far he's come as Seth advertised with his IL fielding credentials.


I was hoping Diamond pitching would give us some better looks. The guy is built more like a third baseman, I guess I also didn't know he was a switch hitter. There is really a lot to like about this kid, wish we would've seen him sooner.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:53 PM

We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).


I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:57 PM

Carson singles - Florimon singles - I'm having flashbacks - where am I? Rochester?

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:57 PM

We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).


I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.


I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 08:58 PM

[quote name='glunn'][quote name='sbknudson'][quote name='glunn']We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).[/QUOTE]

I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.[/QUOTE]

It's good to unload that stuff - repressing it only makes it worse.:)

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:00 PM

[quote name='sbknudson'][quote name='glunn'][quote name='sbknudson'][quote name='glunn']We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).[/QUOTE]

I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.[/QUOTE]

It's good to unload that stuff - repressing it only makes it worse.:)[/QUOTE]

Then I will also express my displeasure at Carson not beating the throw at third. That blunder may cost us this game.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:02 PM

Can't dispute that one - he needs to be moving on that.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:03 PM

[quote name='glunn'][quote name='sbknudson'][quote name='glunn'][quote name='sbknudson'][quote name='glunn']We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).[/QUOTE]

I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.[/QUOTE]

It's good to unload that stuff - repressing it only makes it worse.:)[/QUOTE]

Then I will also express my displeasure at Carson not beating the throw at third. That blunder may cost us this game.[/QUOTE]

Yes, rather disalacritous of him.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

OK, bases loaded, one out, Mauer coming up - if they get nothing out of this, it is the ultimate tease.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:06 PM

Yes, rather disalacritous of him.


That's why I like the english language - it is always growing and evolving, with new words being created every day!

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:07 PM

I liked Florimon when I saw him in ST. He does stand about a head taller than Carroll or Casilla. I tuned in right after his triple so I didn't see him cruise around to third. He may have a power side (RH) and I wonder how he'll hit from the left side. His minor league numbers say he just isn't a major league quality hitter, but if he can field great and hit marginally, well that would be better than Dozier.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:16 PM

Ugh! That's one of the few bad pitches Diamond has thrown.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:25 PM

OK, maybe it's time to think about getting him out of there...

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:36 PM



Yes, rather disalacritous of him.


That's why I like the english language - it is always growing and evolving, with new words being created every day!


Very perspicacious of you.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:38 PM

How about some offense

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:47 PM

How about some offense


And ruin our chance to moan and b#tch and groan about how bad this team is? Don't be ridiculous.:o

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 09:55 PM

How about some offense


And ruin our chance to moan and b#tch and groan about how bad this team is? Don't be ridiculous.:o


One positive learned so far this weekend is that the Mariners could be a good trading partner, these guys can pitch...but man oh man, do they need hitters ( and we got em).