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#1 Jaykay

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

Currently leads the team in B-Ref WAR and is fourth in Fangraphs WAR behind Sano, Dozier, and Rosario. 

 

We don't need to turn this into another WAR discussion, but it's crazy how little he has to hit to be a very valuable player. 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:07 PM

That's what happens when he's the best defensive CF in the game, and elite on the basepath. He's been on a nice hot streak over the last month. Hopefully he finds a middle ground between .317 (what he's hitting since Aug 1) and .200. He's still only 23, so there's plenty of time to grow. 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:07 PM

Hey, and as a bonus, he HAS been hitting since the end of June. Batting over .300 with an OPS of .784 since returning from the DL.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:15 PM

He could be one of the most exciting players in the game if he can hit.....

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:20 PM

 

That's what happens when he's the best defensive CF in the game, and elite on the basepath. He's been on a nice hot streak over the last month. Hopefully he finds a middle ground between .317 (what he's hitting since Aug 1) and .200. He's still only 23, so there's plenty of time to grow. 

 

I'm not hoping for a middle ground... I'm hoping for .317!!! :)

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:31 PM

Roy Smalley has said, several times, that he truly believes that, when Buxton finds a level of offensive consistency at just a slightly higher level, this it in and of itself will have an impact on the team beyond what most people are imagining.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:35 PM

He's been hitting for awhile now, and getting on base at a much more regular clip. The question is will the slugging ever get there, last September showed it's possible but the jury is still out.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:44 PM

Buxton is the fastest CF I've ever watched by far. Devon White was the next fastest but Buxton is faster. White just glided. Buxton is different in that he glides at warp speed.:) 

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 02:53 PM

I've pointed this out before but ..

 

Over his first 15 games he hit .082/.135/.122 (4-49), with 46% k-rate and 4% walk rate

Since then, he's .261/.335/.365 with 27% k-rate and 10% walk rate.

 

Since July 1st, he's hitting .347/.407/.458 with 22% k-rate and 10% walk rate.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:09 PM

You're all welcome.

Credited with fixing Buxton's swing June 29, 2017.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:14 PM

That new stance with little leg-kick has been working a treat. Reminds me of Span. 

 

His plate control has gone up by leaps and bounds.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

I am ok it he doesn't hit for power until he loses a few steps in speed. If he can get on base at a .380 clip he will be an awesome force and I would not care if he hit any home runs (though I think he will). I would like to see him bunt for hits down the third base side every once in a while. Still bat reminds me more of Molitor but I can see Span also.  

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

 

That new stance with little leg-kick has been working a treat. Reminds me of Span. 

 

His plate control has gone up by leaps and bounds.

I've been encouraged by the run too, but there is a downside to his current approach, and that's the power. Just 2 doubles and 2 HRs since the beginning of July. 

 

I'll take the progress, but hopefully he can start driving the ball more as he gets more and more comfortable.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:31 PM

Just out of curiousity, what makes B-R's WAR different from fangraph's?

That is, what does one give greater weight to that the other does not?

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:40 PM

Remember the kerfuffle a few weeks ago when when Rowson discussed some of the changes they're trying to make to Buxton's swing? This new batting coach is reversing years that were lost or misguided. Great hire by the new FO!
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Posted 14 August 2017 - 05:21 PM

Buxton is still figuring it out, obviously, but I've always believed in his talent. Right now, it makes sense for him to prioritize getting on base, as opposed to hitting for power . . . his speed on the basepaths makes it that much more valuable for him to get on (and a point of OBP is worth a bit more than a point of SLG anyway).

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:01 PM

He stole Sano's mojo.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 06:34 PM

 

I've been encouraged by the run too, but there is a downside to his current approach, and that's the power. Just 2 doubles and 2 HRs since the beginning of July. 

 

I'll take the progress, but hopefully he can start driving the ball more as he gets more and more comfortable.

I'll take one tool at a time with Buxton - the field throw run are already top notch.

 

Get the hit tool going, and the power will come with time.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:24 PM

He's still on pace to be a monster. It will all come together by 2019.

7/8 WAR player for multiple seasons.
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#20 Bill Brown69

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:52 PM

With his speed 1/2 of his singles can become doubles. The other thing to think about is he is in scoring position at first, a long single will score him from first several times over the course of a year.

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