Jump to content

Providing independent coverage of the Minnesota Twins.
Subscribe to Twins Daily Email

Recent Blogs

Photo

My wish list for the last 55 games of the season

  • Please log in to reply
29 replies to this topic

#21 drjim

drjim

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 8,544 posts
  • LocationSt. Paul

Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:41 AM

No - but people will come out of curiosity to see him, Romero, Gonsalves and anyone else that they have not seen. Our current product is not going to draw the attendance if we are in the tank and it appears we are headed that way.

The only reason we have Colon on the staff at this time is his potential to set a record that can gain the club some publicity and ticket sales. Gibson does not offer an interesting story line or talent to intrigue the ticket buyers.

It is time to make some changes and those do not have to mean we are giving up on the season.


Interest in Colon from the casual fan will surpass everyone else mentioned combined.

I don't think that should drive decisions at all, but I also don't think any of those pitchers mentioned are especially ready, perhaps outside Romero as a reliever in very controlled situations.

After last nights lineup, definitely time to get Vargas and/or Garver up tho. They don't need 13 pitchers.
  • Mike Sixel likes this
Papers...business papers.

#22 AlwaysinModeration

AlwaysinModeration

    Rochester Red Wings

  • Members
  • 1,599 posts

Posted 11 August 2017 - 05:03 AM

Well, let's see, six games into these last 55...Buxton hitting 333 over that stretch, Dozier has hit 3 home runs, Hildenberger, Gee and Busenitz have all done great, and they've won 5 of 6 (with comebacks from down 5, 4, and 3 runs) to knock 3.5 games off the division lead, and 3 games off of the wild card lead. Oh, and we are definitely seeing a lot more of Colón.

That includes a game in which we had Adrianza at first and Escobar/Gimenez in the 3-4 spots vs Cole Hamels.

Pretty good attempt to knock out the whole damn punch list in quick order. Now we need Mauer to continue to have his line drives start to fall in, and Gibson to put up a good start tonight in Detroit to build on his little mini-streak he has going. Remember that if that homer he gave up to Mazara last Saturday (on a pretty decent pitch) is a few feet shorter, his outing looks a helluva lot better.

I also see a lot of laughter in the dugout...at Colón's at bats, at Enns' hit, pranking the coaches. This team is coming together.
  • Blake likes this

#23 Jaykay

Jaykay

    Rochester Red Wings

  • Members
  • 1,001 posts
  • LocationMinneapolis

Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:48 AM

Garver, Curtiss and/or Reed, and Gonsalves getting significant action.


#24 AlwaysinModeration

AlwaysinModeration

    Rochester Red Wings

  • Members
  • 1,599 posts

Posted 20 August 2017 - 05:27 AM

Two weeks later, let' check in:

Buxton: 240, two triples (and an inside the park home run), check.

Mauer: 290 - check.

Mejia and Gibson - not check. Hopefully Gibson pitches well on Tuesday. A lot of people calling for his head. I'm not ready to yet. Hopefully Mejia still gets back and makes a few more starts down the stretch. I think that Mejia has had nearly as much trouble with pitch counts and putting hitters away as Gibson has.

Few Colón starts - not check. But that's ok, because he's pitched pretty well. He's now locked into the rotation, so let's hope he keeps doing at least pretty well. Would certainly love to see him win five more games down the stretch to get his all time country win total.

Bullpen tryouts: check. Hildenberger, Busenitz, and Gee have all been quite good. Belisle also looking decent as a closer option. Hopefully we will see Curtiss.

Wins - check. 10-4 in this stretch so far, picking up 3.5 games in the WC race to pull into a tie for #2 (while only picking up a game on Cleveland and NY).

And now Garver is up. Still hoping to see a Gosalves start or two this season.

Two weeks in, they've knocked off almost all of my wish list in fine fashion. Thanks, boys.

Here's to them keeping rolling!
  • Blake, Dantes929, Sconnie and 3 others like this

#25 DJSim22

DJSim22

    Charlestown

  • Members
  • 543 posts

Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:25 AM

Well, it looks like you are getting most of what you wanted in the final 55 games.The exception being Colon.I must admit at 42 years old, I love seeing a 44 year old battle and scrap knowing his stuff is below average.I just enjoy watching him mix and match and keep guys off balance for a few innings, or watching him find ways to get out of innings that he has no business doing.Or maybe it's just that I enjoy there being one last guy older than me playing. 

  • dbminn likes this

#26 beckmt

beckmt

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 1,849 posts

Posted 20 August 2017 - 07:36 PM

Why do we not knock Gibson off the wish list and down to Rochester.I have seen more than enough of him and do not need to see any more of him in the Twins uniform, ever.


#27 Blake

Blake

    Super Duper Senior Member

  • Members
  • 3,775 posts
  • LocationBakersfield CA

Posted 20 August 2017 - 08:07 PM

 

Two weeks later, let' check in:

Buxton: 240, two triples (and an inside the park home run), check.

Mauer: 290 - check.

Mejia and Gibson - not check. Hopefully Gibson pitches well on Tuesday. A lot of people calling for his head. I'm not ready to yet. Hopefully Mejia still gets back and makes a few more starts down the stretch. I think that Mejia has had nearly as much trouble with pitch counts and putting hitters away as Gibson has.

Few Colón starts - not check. But that's ok, because he's pitched pretty well. He's now locked into the rotation, so let's hope he keeps doing at least pretty well. Would certainly love to see him win five more games down the stretch to get his all time country win total.

Bullpen tryouts: check. Hildenberger, Busenitz, and Gee have all been quite good. Belisle also looking decent as a closer option. Hopefully we will see Curtiss.

Wins - check. 10-4 in this stretch so far, picking up 3.5 games in the WC race to pull into a tie for #2 (while only picking up a game on Cleveland and NY).

And now Garver is up. Still hoping to see a Gosalves start or two this season.

Two weeks in, they've knocked off almost all of my wish list in fine fashion. Thanks, boys.

Here's to them keeping rolling!

You've gotten a lot of your wishes. In fact, it's almost prescient. Been to the casino recently? I think you're on a roll. :)

  • Sconnie likes this

#28 kab21

kab21

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 4,630 posts
  • LocationTaiwan

Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:31 AM

 

Why do we not knock Gibson off the wish list and down to Rochester.I have seen more than enough of him and do not need to see any more of him in the Twins uniform, ever.

I would be content with him as a the long man. I think we can bury him in the bullpen for 10 days. This team seems to need a lot of bullpen innings and Gibson's stuff could play up in the pen. I have no interest in bringing him back next year at any price though. Time to move on.

Is 2016 2017 2018 the year that a good pitching prospect is truly blocked by 5 good pitchers in the starting rotation? 

Offseason (noun) - a time to propose trades assuming opposing GM's can't do the same basic analysis


#29 Sconnie

Sconnie

    From the "right" side of the St Croix

  • Members
  • 3,113 posts
  • LocationNW Wisconsin

Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:37 AM

 

I would be content with him as a the long man. I think we can bury him in the bullpen for 10 days. This team seems to need a lot of bullpen innings and Gibson's stuff could play up in the pen. I have no interest in bringing him back next year at any price though. Time to move on.

I'd like Gee and Gibson to switch roles. They both have earned it.

  • kab21 likes this

#30 AlwaysinModeration

AlwaysinModeration

    Rochester Red Wings

  • Members
  • 1,599 posts

Posted 03 September 2017 - 04:50 AM

As of this morning, Sunday, Sept 3, the Twins have played 28 of their final 55 games. Let's take a look back at the wish list and see how the Twins are doing:

THEN: As of this morning, Saturday, August 5, the Twins are 52-55, in third place in their division, 7 games back of Cleveland, and tied for fourth behind the second Wild Card team (KC), 3.5 game back, and 4.5 games back behind the first Wild Card team (New York). Realistically, they are very unlikely to win the division, but they could certainly make a run at a Wild Card spot if they get hot. However, with a crowded field, it is also unlikely.

SINCE: They have climbed to 71-64, still 8 back of Cleveland (lost a game to them!), 1 back of NY, 1.5 ahead of the Angels, 2.5 ahead of Baltimore, 4.5 ahead of KC (gained 8)

THEN: I'd rather focus on a few things I'd like to see down the stretch, as these last two months could be important for next season. If they make a run at wild card, great, but most important is progressing on several fronts to set up a competitive team for next year.

SINCE: Ok, why not do both?

Here is my list:

THEN: See Byron Buxton's average climb to 240 as he continues to look more relaxed at the plate. I also want to see at least 3 triples from him before the end of the year.

SINCE: Has climbed from .216 to .253, and yes, three triples.

THEN: Watch Mauer's average climb to 290 before the end of the season. He is striking out much less this year. He's put several years between his big concussion. I think he has at least one more 300 season in his bat, and I am hoping it is next year. I want him to be a veteran leader with a renaissance year on a playoff team next year.

SINCE: Average has climbed from .277 to .303, good for a tie for sixth in the AL. Maybe I was wrong on this one, though...maybe he has a .300 season left in his bat and can be a renaissance veteran guy on a playoff team this year, not next.

THEN: Have Brian Dozier get on a homerun roll like the end of last year. Two home runs yesterday. If he can get to 30 before the end of the season, he could regain value as a potential trade candidate in his contract year.

SINCE: He's hit 8 since then, going from 19 to 27 and well within range of 30.

THEN: Get good starts from Mejia and Gibson. I think both will play a role with the 2018 club. Right now Mejia looks more likely to be a main rotation arm, but Gibson has shown some signs of improvement in the last month. How he does in the last 10 starts is important. And can Mejia become more efficient?

SINCE: Gibson has pitched three straight good games, and has a 3.21 ERA in six starts since this August 5 post. Numerous posters (even on this thread above) have stuck forks in Gibson. I didn't and don't think that was warranted. As for Mejia, I am still concerned about his efficiency (which Gibson has improved upon). Hopefully we see Mejia back in the Gee spot of the rotation for a few September turns...but my expectations are in check.

THEN: Witness as few Colón starts as possible. Realistically I think he is in the rotation through the end of the year (to try to get his seven more wins), but come September, I'd like to see Gonsalves get a few starts. Romero as well, but I think he's on a pitch count, so that might not happen.

SINCE: 3.43 ERA in six starts since then. Good grief. He's obviously locked into the rotation, attacking the strike zone, letting the outfield catch it. Oh, and he's at 239 career wins, now 4 shy of Juan Marichal for the all-time Dominican pitcher wins, passing Pedro last year. I'd take five more wins from Bartolo in September! (As for Gonsalves starts...not so sure anymore, given the playoff push.)

THEN: Bullpen tryouts. Let's see which of Hildenberger, Busenitz, Gee...and hopefully Curtiss and 1-2 others from the minors can pitch well down the stretch.

SINCE:
Busenitz: 1.32 ERA in 10 August appearances
Hildenberger: 2.19 ERA in 13 August appearances
Gee: 2.13 ERA in 4 August relief appearances (12IP), 7.11 ERA in two starts
Curtiss: Up, 3 appearances, two of them shutout innings.
(Belisle: 4.50 in 9 August appearances, 5 saves in 6 opportunities, 83% vs Kintzler 87%)

THEN: Win games. I will admit that the past few years, I have been fine with as many losses as possible down the stretch in order to get a higher draft pick. I was glad they did poorly at the end of last year so they could get the top draft pick. But this year, I want to see them playing their hearts out to win as many games as they can down the stretch. I want them to aim for finishing with at least 81 wins. 30-25 down the stretch would give them 82 wins. That would be a nice stepping stone towards next year.

SINCE: 19-9, currently 7 games above .500.

THEN: Now, if they finish above 500, that likely means Molitor stays. I'm torn on that. I personally think the Twins would be better served with a new manager. But I'm not going to root for the team to lose so that they can fire Molitor. (It's worth noting the Cubs were ruthless in firing Renteria when Maddon became available. If Falvey thinks the team would be better with a new manager, even if they finish above 500, I hope he is just as ruthless.)

NOW: Still torn on this one. However, if the Twins make the play-offs, Molitor will be back next year, I am almost 100% certain of that.

They are hewing pretty close to the script, except for that Colón guy. What will the second half of those 55 games bring? (A 56th game, perhaps? And hopefully more?)

Edited by AlwaysinModeration, 03 September 2017 - 05:03 AM.

  • USAFChief likes this