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Game Thread: Twins@Royals, 7/2 11:15AM (PT) 1:15PM(CT)

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#41 wsnydes

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:15 PM

I've been thinking about this ever since Eddie Rosario came up to the majors.

Compare Willingham and Plouffe with Rosario and Sano.

Would you rather have players with below average talent who play with solid fundamentals, or would you rather have the highly talented players who play a little erratically at times?

The depends really. It depends on the peaks and valleys. I'll take Sano, but Rosario drives me nuts. There's always a place for a steady guy that relies on solid fundamentals. You can't survive on a team full of them, but they can be fantastic roll players if you've got one or two.
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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:15 PM

Fair enough! :)

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:15 PM

 

Sano is a one-dimensional player.  Thank goodness that one-dimension is hitting.

I also appreciate not having to watch him in RF anymore.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:17 PM

Santiago has been throwing batting practice for the past 2 months.Going on the DL didn't help, he's got an awful 5.53 ERA yet the Twins keep running him out there like he's Chris Sale or something.Why is he "untouchable" in this rotation?Aside from a couple lucky starts in sub zero temperatures against freezing opponents, what's he done to deserve being on an MLB roster?


#45 wsnydes

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:18 PM

Sano is a one-dimensional player. Thank goodness that one-dimension is hitting.

He's been solid enough at 3B that I'm not sure I'd call him one dimensional, but he's clearly a much stronger hitter. That might be semantics I guess.
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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:20 PM

 

He's been solid enough at 3B that I'm not sure I'd call him one dimensional, but he's clearly a much stronger hitter. That might be semantics I guess.

For the 20 qualifying 3Bs in MLB, he's been the worst 3B in baseball in DRS and the 2nd worst for range.  So, I mean, I wouldn't call that solid.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:21 PM

 

For the 20 qualifying 3Bs in MLB, he's been the worst 3B in baseball in DRS and the 2nd worst for range.  So, I mean, I wouldn't call that solid.

But.... do you cringe everytime it is hit in his direction?

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:23 PM

This is Wood's first start since 2015.  And we got nothin (so far)'.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:23 PM

 

But.... do you cringe everytime it is hit in his direction?

Interesting barometer ;-)

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:25 PM

For the 20 qualifying 3Bs in MLB, he's been the worst 3B in baseball in DRS and the 2nd worst for range. So, I mean, I wouldn't call that solid.

He's not a liability, which is what I was getting at.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:25 PM

 

Interesting barometer ;-)

I appreciate advanced stats just as much as the next guy. But the cringe meter is my ultimate stat. But what do I know.. I mean Nick Markakis is my favorite player in the MLB but advanced stats hate him.:lol:

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:26 PM

 

He's not a liability, which is what I was getting at.

Because his offense makes up for his defense.  But he's a very poor defender.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:27 PM

 

I appreciate advanced stats just as much as the next guy. But the cringe meter is my ultimate stat. But what do I know.. I mean Nick Markakis is my favorite player in the MLB but advanced stats hate him.:lol:

Like Jacque Jones with high fly balls in the Dome, Sano in RF, Ryan Braun at 3B.  Cringe-worthy defense.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:31 PM

 

Like Jacque Jones with high fly balls in the Dome, Sano in RF, Ryan Braun at 3B.  Cringe-worthy defense.

Jones, Stewart and Hunter. The dream team. Throw some Lew Ford in the mix and I'm happy.


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:32 PM

Good thing we don't owe Santiago any money after this season. Who woulda thunk we flipped Nolasco for a guy who's actually been worse so far?


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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:33 PM

 

Good thing we don't owe Santiago any money after this season. Who woulda thunk we flipped Nolasco for a guy who's actually been worse so far?

And Nolasco is pretty freaking bad.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:34 PM

So far, so little. If we can nick this Wood guy for a run or two, a comeback is possible. But this may be Santiago's last inning. Highly doubtful he can put some zeros on the board for long.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:35 PM

I'm at the point that of course I would like to continue to see the Twins stay in the race. Yet I can't stand to see Santiago go out and pitch 3 innings every fifth day. I would love for them to slowly give the studs in AA a chance and see if they stick, maybe give Slegers a shot. Because every time Santiago starts we all know he will break down in the third or fouth inning... so what is the point of even running him out there at this point.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:39 PM

Grossman should have caught that ball.

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Posted 02 July 2017 - 01:41 PM

And it looks like Hughes is picking up where he left off when he went on the DL. Too bad he's owed another $26M. Ugh.

 

Here's what's left of Terry Ryan's 2014 free agency splurge: Hughes, Santiago, and Busenitz. To TR's credit he did find Suzuki on a one year deal in 2014, but still, we ended up with one good season from a starter and that's it. Whoops.




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