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#221 notoriousgod71

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 07:13 PM

This time of the season is always bittersweet as it means seeing guys play their final games. Today it was Matt Cain (who is amazingly only 32 years old) and it was a fitting end for his career as he tossed five shutout innings but didn't get the win. That seemed to happen to him more than any pitcher I've seen.


#222 Vanimal46

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:28 AM

Pittsburgh Pirates 1B John Jaso is calling it a career... He's set for the next adventure in his life, living like a real life Pirate! He has a sailboat and will be sailing the seven seas, looking for treasure! He's also going to help Puerto Rico rebuild, and live his life the way he wants to. 

 

He played 9 MLB seasons, and made $17+ MM in his career. Good luck to him and his future endeavors. 


#223 Vanimal46

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:31 AM

The Mets are not bringing back manager Terry Collins next year. There are now 2 openings for manager jobs in baseball... 

 

 


#224 spycake

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:37 AM

 

The Mets are not bringing back manager Terry Collins next year. There are now 2 openings for manager jobs in baseball... 

Actually 3. Detroit, Philadelphia, and the Mets.

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#225 gunnarthor

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:39 AM

Hope Gardy gets another shot to manage.

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#226 FattCrapps

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:28 AM

Tsk tsk.  Cobb County can't even cheat correctly!

 

 

Atlanta Braves general manager John Coppolella has resigned as Major League Baseball investigates whether the team broke rules regarding the international player market.

The Braves released a statement Monday, saying that MLB continues to investigate the matter. John Hart, the Braves' president of baseball operations, will perform the team's GM duties until the team hires a replacement for Coppolella.

 

 

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#227 Vanimal46

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:42 AM

 

Tsk tsk.  Cobb County can't even cheat correctly!

 

 

Atlanta Braves general manager John Coppolella has resigned as Major League Baseball investigates whether the team broke rules regarding the international player market.

The Braves released a statement Monday, saying that MLB continues to investigate the matter. John Hart, the Braves' president of baseball operations, will perform the team's GM duties until the team hires a replacement for Coppolella.

 

Wow. Must be pretty serious to warrant him resigning. I mean, Preller was lying about player injuries in trades and got a suspension + a slap on the wrist. This must be much more complicated and calculated cheating. 


#228 Mike Sixel

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:02 PM

I think any player signed under these violations should be a FA......and get to keep whatever money they have from ATL already.

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It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:53 PM

Jeff Passan is speculating about the Braves' GM news on Twitter. This quoted tweet below feels like the most notable of news coming out right now. 

"To put it mildly, John Coppolella was not well-liked among his peers. Well-loathed would be more accurate. A lot of schadenfreude right now."

Nevertheless, if the minor league roster stays in tact, this will be one of the most sought after job openings in baseball along with the manager opportunity. 


#230 biggentleben

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:11 PM

 

I think any player signed under these violations should be a FA......and get to keep whatever money they have from ATL already.

 

The word is that it is not issues in player signing but in violating putting team name on money given to certain people that other teams essentially put under the table. The investigation is going back to when Frank Wren was still GM, so it's not likely to be something that results in players released - but that's also according to a Braves guy who got a quick briefing this morning and told me what I can go with and what I can't. Not enough to go with to do an article on it, so I'll wait for the rest to come out.

 

The investigation is ongoing, however, and involves essentially all facets of the work Coppy was doing.

 

What intrigues me is that two "bright young baseball minds" that worked under John Hart at some point have now been in big trouble in the Latin market in Preller and Coppolella. He doesn't have a contract for 2018 currently and could find himself without a job. Others have told me that what's investigated involves all the way up to Schuerholz, so it could be a significant front office cleaning in Atlanta - which would not be a bad thing, frankly.

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#231 Mike Sixel

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:18 PM

 

The word is that it is not issues in player signing but in violating putting team name on money given to certain people that other teams essentially put under the table. The investigation is going back to when Frank Wren was still GM, so it's not likely to be something that results in players released - but that's also according to a Braves guy who got a quick briefing this morning and told me what I can go with and what I can't. Not enough to go with to do an article on it, so I'll wait for the rest to come out.

 

The investigation is ongoing, however, and involves essentially all facets of the work Coppy was doing.

 

What intrigues me is that two "bright young baseball minds" that worked under John Hart at some point have now been in big trouble in the Latin market in Preller and Coppolella. He doesn't have a contract for 2018 currently and could find himself without a job. Others have told me that what's investigated involves all the way up to Schuerholz, so it could be a significant front office cleaning in Atlanta - which would not be a bad thing, frankly.

 

thanks for the update. 

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It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


#232 gunnarthor

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 06:09 PM

https://www.mlbtrade...an-signing.html

 

Sounds like the Braves might lose Maitan (who would keep his bonus just like the Red Sox guys a year ago). If released, Maitan, a top 75 prospect, would be a free agent.


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Posted 02 October 2017 - 06:33 PM

https://www.mlbtrade...an-signing.html

Sounds like the Braves might lose Maitan (who would keep his bonus just like the Red Sox guys a year ago). If released, Maitan, a top 75 prospect, would be a free agent.


That would be a pretty big deal. Would be good to be Maitan, easily hits 8 figures. 30 mil? Too little?
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#234 spycake

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:31 PM

That would be a pretty big deal. Would be good to be Maitan, easily hits 8 figures. 30 mil? Too little?


The Red Sox IFAs were still subject to IFA bonus rules (although the first $300k of their new bonuses were exempted).

#235 Mike Sixel

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:05 AM

Wow, that could be a lucky break to some team that just traded for 500K in IFA money.....

It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


#236 biggentleben

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:07 AM

 

https://www.mlbtrade...an-signing.html

 

Sounds like the Braves might lose Maitan (who would keep his bonus just like the Red Sox guys a year ago). If released, Maitan, a top 75 prospect, would be a free agent.

 

They have investigated his signing and found nothing at the most recent reporting. One of the complaints about Coppolella was centered around the Maitan signing as he accepted less money to go to the Braves than the Nationals and Cardinals came up with at the very end, but by then he had bonded with other Braves signees at showcases and they were very obviously bonded at the fall instructs last season, so there were bonds already in place before they were signed, and many in Florida last fall said in order to get Maitan, there were three others that needed to come with him that were in the Braves class.

 

Where there were issues were with a player the Braves already had pen to paper with who is only 14 currently. Dumb move to put it to paper, basically, and that is the smoking gun that led to the immediate resignation.

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#237 Mike Sixel

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:24 AM

 

They have investigated his signing and found nothing at the most recent reporting. One of the complaints about Coppolella was centered around the Maitan signing as he accepted less money to go to the Braves than the Nationals and Cardinals came up with at the very end, but by then he had bonded with other Braves signees at showcases and they were very obviously bonded at the fall instructs last season, so there were bonds already in place before they were signed, and many in Florida last fall said in order to get Maitan, there were three others that needed to come with him that were in the Braves class.

 

Where there were issues were with a player the Braves already had pen to paper with who is only 14 currently. Dumb move to put it to paper, basically, and that is the smoking gun that led to the immediate resignation.

 

pretty much every team does that, they just don't put it on paper, and they don't have FO infighting to expose it.....

It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


#238 gunnarthor

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 08:58 AM

Was this link posted yet? https://sports.yahoo...-230643724.html

 

"While the long-term fallout of Coppolella’s actions remains unclear, the focus of MLB’s investigation narrowed in recent days to the bundling of international amateur signing bonuses to circumvent spending restrictions, according to sources. The scope of the Braves’ scheme remains unclear, but a source familiar with it deemed it “significantly bigger” than a similar one employed by the Boston Red Sox in the 2015-16 signing period. To skirt rules that limited them to signing players for a maximum $300,000 bonus, Boston overpaid for bonuses on lesser players represented by the same buscon, or trainer, of more highly regarded players, to whom extra money was funneled. The five players signed in the scheme were declared free agents, and the Red Sox were banned from signing any international players for a year."

 

Sounds like MLB thinks it's bigger than the Red Sox scandal.Apparently mlb is looking at bundling (the same practice done by the Red Sox, under the table benefits and pre-draft deals "struck months in advance."That last one could open a pretty big hornets nest if they were really to look into it.


#239 biggentleben

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 09:56 AM

The "big" name that the Braves could lose is Derian Cruz.They signed Dian Toscano and Carlos Portuondo from Cuba for more than most thought they would get, and Cruz was a highly-regarded prospect in the class the season before the big 2016 class the Braves signed. All three were represented by the same trainer. There's some discussion about some low-money guys in that class being "hidden" from other teams by the Braves to keep their prices down, like Juan Carlos Encarnacion and Yoeli Lopez.

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#240 biggentleben

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 09:57 AM

One of the throw away lines in Passan's article and mentioned in Rosenthal's article as well was that the league is in the midst of investigating as many as 15 teams for international violations. The most recent CBA did give the commish's office a lot more teeth in the international market to discipline, so this could be an interesting offseason.

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