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#21 Sconnie

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:17 PM

Chapman was available to us twice on waivers back in March. The second time he cleared completely, which is why Atlanta was able to outright him off their 40-man.

The DFA'd DanSan who clearly was claimed. Getting anything not on the 40 man is better than nothing
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:23 PM

 

Anybody remember Drew Butera--and how some proclaimed "we won that deal"?

Didn't we? Am I mistaking my trades but didn't we turn him into Nunez and eventually Mejia?

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:24 PM

 

Nice move. I didn't expect the Twins to get anything for Santana and a questionable lefty bullpen arm seems like a fair deal.

Unfortunately, a "questionable" player begs the question... ;-)

 

You're right, though. Santana is a questionable player, too. Maybe both guys can benefit from a change of scenery. 

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:26 PM

The DFA'd DanSan who clearly was claimed. Getting anything not on the 40 man is better than nothing


Actually Santana wasn't claimed -- he was never waived. Likely he would have been claimed by a couple clubs, though, and the Braves offered Chapman to essentially jump the line.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:30 PM

And while Chapman not being on the 40-man is nice, the Twins actually have an open 40-man spot with Tonkin removed. And if we add Chapman at any point, he is out of options which might limit our flexibility.

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:33 PM

The biggest win here is Santana is not around to get 200 AB and accumulate a negative win or two
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:41 PM

 

Didn't we? Am I mistaking my trades but didn't we turn him into Nunez and eventually Mejia?

We sent Butera to the Dodgers and received Miguel Subaran in return.

Sulbaran pitched for the NYY AA and AAA teams last year.

He wasn't very good at it, though I don't know why we gave up on a 20 year old in A ball. Did we trade him?

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:41 PM

Yes...better than nothing.

 

No need to keep a roster space for him, yet.

 

Him and Boshers can be the setup guys at Rochester (sic).

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:45 PM

And while Chapman not being on the 40-man is nice, the Twins actually have an open 40-man spot with Tonkin removed. And if we add Chapman at any point, he is out of options which might limit our flexibility.

he passed waivers twice. Why is this a concern?
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:47 PM

We sent Butera to the Dodgers and received Miguel Subaran in return.
Sulbaran pitched for the NYY AA and AAA teams last year.
He wasn't very good at it, though I don't know why we gave up on a 20 year old in A ball. Did we trade him?


Yes, traded him for Nunez. Then traded for Mejia.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:07 PM

So is the free 40-man spot gonna go to Park?

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:13 PM

Replacing Santana and gaining the 40 man spot is probably the overall win here. Adriana can at least play defense, though he might be a bit superfluous with Escobar on the roster.

The big win involves Pressly getting straightened out, and the likes of Berrios, Chargois, Burdi and Melotakis coming up. (Though that leaves us short a SP). Mejia!
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:17 PM

I am tired of winning this kind of useless trade. It is nice, but doesn't move the needle. I hope Danny becomes a good player, but it wasn't working here. Moving on from him is probably good, but it didn't fix any of the real problems.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:23 PM

Just making sure I have things straight:

Too old to be a proespect. Pedestrian stuff, at best. Bad career numbers ....with putrid AAA numbers this year as a 30 year old....

....So, this guy will immediately be signed to an extension and given a two-year leash, be next year's opening day starter, and will bump Berrios to the bullpen?

The sad part is, given this club's track record, I can't even come up with a scenario ridiculous enough to be unbelievable.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:35 PM

 

Anybody remember Drew Butera--and how some proclaimed "we won that deal"?

If you wanted to keep Butera, then DFA'ing him was the mistake, not the trade. If DanSan becomes a vastly improved player, the blame should be on the DFA decision - the trade is just a cherry on top, it's likely they didn't want to keep him anyways.

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:43 PM

he passed waivers twice. Why is this a concern?


Sometimes the team resists sending out guys without options, that's all. Not a big deal, but this is different than getting a non-40 man guy like, say, Miguel Sulbaran.

Another difference is that Chapman is eligible to become a minor league free agent after the season if not added to the 40-man roster, which might nudge the team to call him up this season for evaluation purposes even if he doesn't necessarily deserve it.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:49 PM

Yes, traded him for Nunez. Then traded for Mejia.


Although Nunez too was DFA'd at the time. It is quite possible that we could have acquired him even without Sulbaran, using any number of interchangeable assets. It is quite likely we could have instead acquired Nunez for, say, Tyler Jones.

Not that I have any problem with the Butera trade, but giving it credit for Nunez and then Mejia is probably overstating it (even if it is technically true in a transaction tree sense).

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 09:54 PM

Scott Bowman once said nothing for nothing ain't much.

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 09:56 PM

The fact they got anything for DanSan is an accomplishment, but you have to wonder just how bad Chapman is.

 

He was just traded for the 3rd worst player in baseball over the last two years ... and the Braves had to throw in cash to get the deal done.

 

That, combined with someone else's comment about him being out of options, gives me this sense of horror that we're going to see him sooner rather than later.


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 02:46 AM

 

Just making sure I have things straight:

Too old to be a proespect. Pedestrian stuff, at best. Bad career numbers ....with putrid AAA numbers this year as a 30 year old....

....So, this guy will immediately be signed to an extension and given a two-year leash, be next year's opening day starter, and will bump Berrios to the bullpen?

The sad part is, given this club's track record, I can't even come up with a scenario ridiculous enough to be unbelievable.

That track record ended with the firing of Terry Ryan.  I don't really believe it is in Falvey's plans to hang onto Chapman very long.  He's cleared a spot and taken on a guy that can easily be dumped if he doesn't get ontrack in a few MiLB games.  Not much of a win, but still a win.

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