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#1 Vanimal46

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:09 AM

The Bears got duped by a first time GM.... Trading picks #3, #67, #111, and a 2018 3rd in order to move up one spot and take QB Mitch Trubisky... A guy with 13 career starts in college. 

 

The Chiefs also mortgaged their future to move up 17 spots and take project QB Pat Mahomes at #10 overall. 

 

2 RBs are off the board - Fournette to the Jaguars, and McCaffery to the Panthers. 

 

The Browns appear to be not screwing this up. And they're stockpiling a boat load of draft picks for next year too. 

 

Only 2 OL were selected last night... Is it really that bad of a draft for OL? If so, that's bad timing for the Vikings. 


#2 Mike Sixel

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 09:29 AM

It is an unprepared group of OL, to be sure. But, someone has to play OL. Getting the best of a mediocre group is better than getting the worst.

 

No issue with the Chiefs move, they aren't probably giving up TOP picks. The Bears? WTH were the Bears doing? No one should like that QB that much. Wow. 

 

The Browns and 49ers had very good drafts, imo. Assuming GB gets an OL or EDGE or CB, and then gets more of those, they did well yesterday.

 

I probably don't take Fournette that high, or McCaffery. But that's mostly because I think RBs are over rated at this point. OTOH, it's clear Elliot helped the 'boys.

One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:09 AM

I'm calling it. Leonard Fournette is going to be a bust. I felt the same way about Trent Richardson.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:22 AM

I agree, I like Cook, the Stanford kid, and Kamara more than Fournette.

 

I'd still take Alvin Kamara if he falls to us too.

 

Also, the Texans just gave the Browns their first and second next year because they can't figure out their QB situation.

 

The Browns and Niners had brilliant nights, the Bears and Texans looked like idiots.

 

Some solid OL, RB, and DL on the board still - I'm good with any of those.

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#5 Mike Sixel

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:24 AM

I'd take Kamara if Lamp, Robinson, and the the top 2 DL are gone, maybe. But, it will be hard to pass on some of the DBs if they are there.

 

I just think they can survive with these RBs, and get one next year if needed. But, they really need a RG and DT (especially if Floyd is iffy, as he appears to be). 

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:33 AM

You're right, it depends on who is there.  Feeney, Dawkins, Lamp, and Robinson would all be guys I'd consider over Kamara.  I just see Kamara as a LeVeon Bell-light type of back, that has enormous value.

 

There are a few DL I'd consider too - McDowell comes to mind.  Budda Baker and a few DBs too.

 

I guess the long way of saying - they'll have some good options by the time they pick.  Possibly into the third as well.

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#7 Vanimal46

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 11:34 AM

 

I'm calling it. Leonard Fournette is going to be a bust. I felt the same way about Trent Richardson.

 

I'm excited to see what he can do in Jacksonville. The dude basically took last year off so he wouldn't get hurt, but the season before that he was a beast. 

 

The NFL Network guys were salivating over him last night, mentioning multiple times that he "runs angry"


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:12 PM

Jaleel Johnson would be a good DT to target. He's really similar to fellow Iowa alum Mike Daniels in his ability to get after the QB from the interior. Maybe more of a 3rd round target than 2nd round I think.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 12:16 PM

I'm excited to see what he can do in Jacksonville. The dude basically took last year off so he wouldn't get hurt, but the season before that he was a beast. 
 
The NFL Network guys were salivating over him last night, mentioning multiple times that he "runs angry"

If he does turn out to be what most people think, then Jacksonville has a really nice looking set of skill position players, especially if Bortles plays more like the 2015 version.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:49 PM

The guys viewed as the best available are going fast at the top of round 2.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:51 PM

Lots of these recent trades have been including 2018 picks. I might be interested in something like that. The guys I like are really dwindling.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:54 PM

Ugh, jinxed them. Trade up.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 05:59 PM

Cook. I guess I'll be excited. Didn't want to waste a pick on a RB early but it's done, let's run crazy.

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 06:06 PM

Cook was a first round talent.  Some people saw him as a top 10 pick.  

 

With the best OL off the board, I'm perfectly ok with this.


#15 Mike Sixel

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:27 PM

Character issues. Can we admit the CoC is bull yet?

I don't get trading up for a RB.
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One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:36 PM

Im admittedly not a huge fan, but the Vikes are in trouble. 7 wins would be a good outcome.
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#17 TheLeviathan

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:55 PM

There are still some very solid OL on the board.  

 

And we just traded up to get Elfein as I post this.  So there is a G/C combo guy and at 86 we may still be able to get another guy.

 

There are some good DTs still out there too.  Brantley could be a steal.

Edited by TheLeviathan, 28 April 2017 - 07:57 PM.


#18 DaveW

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:09 PM

Great picks so far.

Aaron Hicks 2017 stats so far (5/17/17): .326 BA .464 OBP .616 SLG 1.080 OPS  7 HR 19 RBI 6 SB 22 BBs 1.8WAR
 


#19 Mike Sixel

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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:14 PM

Like that second pick a lot. Legit starter soon.

One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.


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Posted 28 April 2017 - 08:23 PM

Elflein should step in right now as RG, that's my guess.