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#1 Hammond2ndHome

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:21 PM

I know this may be a bit outside the box, but what about using Parmelee as trade bait for a 2B or pitcher? I am a big supporter of Morneau and believe he can continue his play as of late into the future. Yes, I understand the history of injury, but he is an MVP and is a huge part of Twins lineup. But consider for a moment if Morneau gives us 4 more good years and Vargas ends up to be a pretty damn good prospect as well. I don't think it is that crazy to see if Parmelee can be used to bring in someone the Twins desperately need.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:28 PM

I know this may be a bit outside the box, but what about using Parmelee as trade bait for a 2B or pitcher? I am a big supporter of Morneau and believe he can continue his play as of late into the future. Yes, I understand the history of injury, but he is an MVP and is a huge part of Twins lineup.

But consider for a moment if Morneau gives us 4 more good years and Vargas ends up to be a pretty damn good prospect as well. I don't think it is that crazy to see if Parmelee can be used to bring in someone the Twins desperately need.


Parmelee has minimal trade value.
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#3 jokin

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

It will take a major selling job to market a plentiful commodity like AAA/AAAA 1B in order to find a scarce commodity like quality pitching.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

Chris Colabello is in the wings. He is on pace for 20 hrs and 100 RBI season.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

OK, I should have been more specific. I don't think he alone would bring back someone Twins need - I was thinking he would be part of some package. But overall, what I am hearing lately is how Twins need to get him in the lineup somehow bc he is tearing up AAA. Isn't he about the best trade chip Twins have right now?

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:42 PM

It's not such a far-fetched idea. I think that Sano eventually moves to first, with Plouffe staying at 3rd. But I wouldn't think he would bring back much - about the same as the Paul Sorento trade in '92. Sorento showed power as well, but was unproven like Parmelee. For Sorento we got Oscar Munoz - 10 games for the Twins and Curt Leskanic - a journeyman pitcher who never pitched for the Twins, but spent 11 years in the majors as a mediocre middle reliever.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:47 PM

I guess I question why it is people think he'd have little value. He's a 24 year old absolutely destroying AAA... He struggled earlier this year, but also hit ML pitching nicely last September. That said, the only way they trade him is if they extend Morneau. Extending the aging vet while trading the prospect is generally not the wisest of moves.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:54 PM

I guess I question why it is people think he'd have little value. He's a 24 year old absolutely destroying AAA... He struggled earlier this year, but also hit ML pitching nicely last September.

That said, the only way they trade him is if they extend Morneau. Extending the aging vet while trading the prospect is generally not the wisest of moves.


You mean like Billy traded the unneeded Ramos when they had Mauer locked up?

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:58 PM

I just don't get those kind of threads... Trade 24 year olds Parmelee and Revere and keep 30 some year old Morneau and Span (ok he is younger) in a 99 and 90+ loss team 2 years in a row? Nuts
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Posted 08 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

Beating up AAA pitching is all good, but I see little reason to rate him as anything more than a platoon bat with a questionable glove at this point. That is not being traded for young pitching or a middle infielder. Might be able to move him for a veteran pitcher with a contract that the trading team might want to clear. I do think he should get into the lineup to see what he has, but I don't see him as a first division regular at a corner.
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#11 Top Gun

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:06 PM

Ramos has done nottin.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:11 PM

Ramos has done nottin.


You mean besides provide depth behind an older player with an injury history? You're right. Trade Parmalee and extend Morneau.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:48 PM

I applaud out-of-the-box thinking, but I would not trade Parmelee at this time. Morneau has one year left on his contract; after that, who knows what happens. I think Parmelee is the heir apparent for the position, and if Morneau goes down, or becomes a free agent, we're going to wish we had him. I know he doesn't like this idea, but I think Morneau's future is more of a DH anyway.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:51 PM

Parmelee doesn't have enough pedigree to be traded for anything. Right now is a guy who is having a break-out season or a nice hot streak in AAA. GM's wouldn't trade Kris Benson and his wife for that, maybe just Kris Benson, but certainly not his wife with him.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 08:53 PM

I get the snark and sarcasm. The thing to do is to trade older, more expensive players. I can't ever say I've been a huge Morneau guy, but he has raised his value substantially in the last six weeks and would stand to raise it even more with a productive end to the season--something he hasn't done in a long time, if ever. This would mean risking that Parmelee can be a league average hitter at first. But if the club could get a very good return for Morneau, the Twins have to do it. They are in a bit of a box for salary and they really don't have a lot more than Parmelee that would figure to contribute from the minors.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 09:30 PM

Chris Colabello is in the wings. He is on pace for 20 hrs and 100 RBI season.

Wow, if you had stopped after the first sentence, I would have contacted you to compliment your sense of humor and ask if you have a blog.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 09:35 PM

I guess I question why it is people think he'd have little value. He's a 24 year old absolutely destroying AAA... He struggled earlier this year, but also hit ML pitching nicely last September.

That said, the only way they trade him is if they extend Morneau. Extending the aging vet while trading the prospect is generally not the wisest of moves.


In more than 2,446 minor league at bats, his his hitting line is .271/.362/.812. That's why he has little trade value.

September callup means pretty much nothing. But if you are going to point it out as a positive, It's only fair to also mention how badly he struggled with the Twins early this season.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 09:55 PM

Trading Parmelee is interesting. I don't think it's a possibility for the Twins to consider keeping Morneau, but Mauer and Doumit could fill the 1B role with Willingham, if they're intent on keeping him. Arcia, Hicks, and Herrmann provide depth at the positions affected. But this would only make sense for a team that has excess pitching or middle infield and needs a 1B who's both second division and still better than their other options (because Parmelee is not a first-division 1B). That excludes almost everybody, because almost everybody has someone who projects as well as Parmelee. One team that does make some sense is Baltimore, who has Jonathan Schoop as a AA 2B. He's seemingly had a down year, but he basically skipped through loA and hiA in 2011 and is two levels ahead of Eddie Rosario at the same age. You keep Morneau for a year, trade Parmelee for Schoop, let Schoop start at AA next year and move to AAA midseason, and hope he finds his loA stroke of 2011. That's probably the best-case scenario with trading Parmelee. It probably makes more sense to get what you can for Morneau while he's still yours and let Parmelee, who's definitely better than he had projected to be (prior to September, 2011), take over at 1B. You might even get a guy like Schoop for Morneau and save $14 million while securing 1B and catcher both for 2014 and beyond.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:16 PM

Rebuilding teams don't trade the cheap, young versions of their older players. Threads like this and the "Trade Revere" one are incredibly pointless.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:27 PM

I applaud out-of-the-box thinking, but I would not trade Parmelee at this time. Morneau has one year left on his contract; after that, who knows what happens. I think Parmelee is the heir apparent for the position, and if Morneau goes down, or becomes a free agent, we're going to wish we had him. I know he doesn't like this idea, but I think Morneau's future is more of a DH anyway.



Why is Morneau a DH? He is a very good defensive first baseman that has struggled when he did DH? People seem to forget before the concussions this guy was an iron man! If the concussions are behind him you can bet he will play 150 games a year!! He is by far the toughest guy in this team and the twins need his mentality in the clubhouse more so than Joe "no emotion" Mauer!