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#1 minn55441

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:39 PM

You know who I'm talking about. I don't even have to mention his name. Once Bert and Dick turn on you, there really is no hope left. I say he shouldn't dress in a twins uniform again. Don't even give him the option of going back to Rochester. Just cut ties and be done with it.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:47 PM

Well you know if DickBert is ripping Nishi then it's supported by the team...so something tells me it's only a matter of time.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:35 PM

I had it narrowed down to Blackburn, Pavano, and Capps, so I guess I didn't know who you were talking about. Since it's apparently Nishioki, I would rather send him down, let him rot on the bench, and do everything we can to make him want to go back to Japan on his own.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:39 PM

It almost makes me wonder if he is tanking on purpose so he does get released and can go back to Japan with the 4 million left on his contract. If he were to quit on his own, it would admit failure and he would lose the money left on his contract.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:41 PM

Its been 2 games lol. I think he sucks too, but calling to release him this early is just funny. Let him play a few more games to let him get settled.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:41 PM

OK, I was working today so I missed whatever happened. What did Nishi do today?

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:43 PM

Absolutely the least they should do is DFA him to clear up a spot on 40man roster. If he wants to play in AAA, so be it as we are short of minor league infielders in upper levels

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

Yes. This would be a case of exponentiation by subtraction.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:26 PM

Looked up in the sky and never saw a pop up hit to him.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:36 PM

OK, I was working today so I missed whatever happened. What did Nishi do today?


It is more what he "didn't" do today.... I was also working but caught the main error on lunch. High fly ball hit to Nishi in short right field, he looked up as if he was tracking the ball and at the last minute just left it fall behind him. According to Gladden, instead of running to pick up the ball, Nishi just turned his back to it in disgust and walked back towards the infield.

Players are going to lose a ball from time to time, that is totally acceptable. What isn't is walking away from the ball and making Revere sprint in from right field and make the throw.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:38 PM

Its been 2 games lol. I think he sucks too, but calling to release him this early is just funny. Let him play a few more games to let him get settled.


It has been three games... he is 0-fer, barely making contact, and has 3 (what should be 4) errors in a matter of 3 days. "Buh-Bye"

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:38 PM

[h=2]Is it time to just release him?[/h]That time has passed. Now is the time we should organize an intervention for TR's sake

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:44 PM

Well you know if DickBert is ripping Nishi then it's supported by the team...so something tells me it's only a matter of time.



On Monday night's broadcast Bert said that he had heard from the Rochester staff that, "this kid was ready to come back up."

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:45 PM

The missed pop wasn't even the error. He threw a ball with his glove rather than his hand. It didn't go near his intended target. He made a second costly, bad throw that wasn't called an error. He's 0 for 12 now and it's looked even more embarrassing than the numbers.

Edited by PopRiveter, 08 August 2012 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:48 PM

Looked up in the sky and never saw a pop up hit to him.


And then walked away from it.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

You know who I'm talking about. I don't even have to mention his name. Once Bert and Dick turn on you, there really is no hope left. I say he shouldn't dress in a twins uniform again. Don't even give him the option of going back to Rochester. Just cut ties and be done with it.


Are we talking about Nick Blackburn, or Jeff Gray, or Nishi?

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:54 PM

Is there any way they can just turn him into the highest paid bathroom attendant? They could also rent him out as mop up guy in XXX peep show rooms... Hey, now that would be a great way if only you could do it since he has a contract, too bad its only to "play" baseball.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:55 PM

OK, I was working today so I missed whatever happened. What did Nishi do today?


He added 4 more NNTTTs (Nishi's Not The Top Ten) to the ESPN video vault, outdoing even his juggling/face plant error on a routine ground ball on Monday.

And people wonder why certain folks ask for changes in the FO. I would not be shocked if the Commissioner hasn't already called Pohlad and said something to the effect of:

"Your FO management is making a travesty of the game by playing Nishioka, in the best interests of baseball, he is hereby prohibited from playing again. (I'm on firm legal ground, Eddie Gaedel is my precedent)!"

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:58 PM

The best I can say is that he looks better at the plate, despite the lack of hits. He seems to be driving the ball better. He is doing a little more than slapping it. The fielding? That's another story. Maybe he has a mental block once he gets to "the show"; sort of like Dave Engel not being able to throw back to the pircher.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 02:58 PM

I saw that one when I was at work. He lost the ball, turned his back and just walked away. He then saw it land and continued walking away like the play didn't count or something like that. Revere had to pick up the ball and throw it in. I hope his translator conveyed the tone properly when Gardy was screaming at him in the club house.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:02 PM

It almost makes me wonder if he is tanking on purpose so he does get released and can go back to Japan with the 4 million left on his contract. If he were to quit on his own, it would admit failure and he would lose the money left on his contract.


The only thing that would have made his day worse, is if he had gone up into the clubhouse in between innings, grabbed a beer and then tripped and spilled it all over Gardy's uniform as he was running back onto the field.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:05 PM

I saw that one when I was at work. He lost the ball, turned his back and just walked away. He then saw it land and continued walking away like the play didn't count or something like that. Revere had to pick up the ball and throw it in.

I hope his translator conveyed the tone properly when Gardy was screaming at him in the club house.


Only if Ryo mimicked the effects of early onset pulmonary embolism.

Duensing was screaming into his glove, Primal Scream-like at the end of that inning. Gardy in the postgame presser was red-faced and having trouble breathing. This cannot end well.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:06 PM

I feel sorry for Nishi, but yeah it's time to cut bait. He's had enough time to figure things out, it appears he is just not built for the American game.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:12 PM

The only thing that would have made his day worse, is if he had gone up into the clubhouse in between innings, grabbed a beer and then tripped and spilled it all over Gardy's uniform as he was running back onto the field.


I would have given him credit for that.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:15 PM

Only if Ryo mimicked the effects of early onset pulmonary embolism.

Duensing was screaming into his glove, Primal Scream-like at the end of that inning. Gardy in the postgame presser was red-faced and having trouble breathing. This cannot end well.


So are the Twins playing chicken with their medical insurance rates to get Gardy to quit without firing him?

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

Let me put it this way:

- Believe it or not, Nishioka is not the reason the Twins lost 99 last season and are in pace of losing 90+ this season
- This team has bigger fish to fry that dealing with whether or not Nishioka can be the 25th man on the 2013 roster
- And this is a team that carried the likes of Matt Tolbert and Brian Butcher on division winning rosters

Bigger fish to fry. Really. And, yes, Nishioka is who he is. He cannot help it. If you want to complain about someone complain about the manager who is playing him or the general manager who got him to the majors.

And here is the kicker: Nishioka's play did not cost the Twins a single game. Even if he caught everything thrown his way today they would still have lost...

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:21 PM

So are the Twins playing chicken with their medical insurance rates to get Gardy to quit without firing him?


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:23 PM

It is more what he "didn't" do today.... I was also working but caught the main error on lunch. High fly ball hit to Nishi in short right field, he looked up as if he was tracking the ball and at the last minute just left it fall behind him. According to Gladden, instead of running to pick up the ball, Nishi just turned his back to it in disgust and walked back towards the infield.

Players are going to lose a ball from time to time, that is totally acceptable. What isn't is walking away from the ball and making Revere sprint in from right field and make the throw.


I just watched it and I don't like Nishioka at all, but if Gladden said that then he is blatantly lying to make Nishioka look worse. Nishioka clearly thought it landed behind him and turned his back to look for the damn ball. It actually landed on the infield side and he turned around as soon as he heard it fall. It's pretty disgusting when announcers have to start in on players like that

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

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and at the time, most of us considered that a real possiblity... His projections by the good folks over at BP was a .270ish hitter, which was a huge improvement over the likes of Tolbert and Punto... or so we thought :(

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

I saw that one when I was at work. He lost the ball, turned his back and just walked away. He then saw it land and continued walking away like the play didn't count or something like that. Revere had to pick up the ball and throw it in.

I hope his translator conveyed the tone properly when Gardy was screaming at him in the club house.


That's actually not what happened.