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#1 Brandon Warne

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:36 PM

I updated my potential Opening Day roster projection for the Twins here: 

 

http://zonecoverage....-roster-take-2/

 

As always, comments and critiques are welcomed!

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:40 PM

Yay, what a youth movement they have!

 

I agree, that's the likely roster. I feel no encouragement this team is moving forward at all.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

That rotation.... Such a boring group of names. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:50 PM

 

That rotation.... Such a boring group of names. 

 

I don't disagree, but my theory is this: you can go from oldies to the kids. You can't do vice versa. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:55 PM

 

I don't disagree, but my theory is this: you can go from oldies to the kids. You can't do vice versa. 

 

Don't disagree with your theory. I've been beaten down enough to accept Berrios + others are starting in AAA... Time will tell if the new regime has a quick hook with struggling veterans. The last thing I want this year is watching Vogelsong/Hughes/Santiago struggle for several starts and the FO gives them the benefit of the doubt. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:03 PM

And I mean, to be fair, it's not like Berrios gave them reason last year to give him a free pass into the rotation 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:07 PM

This is depressing because while you're probably close to right, it just seems like the team is delaying the inevitable. This is particularly true of the 5th starter and two bullpen spots.  I guess this boils down to whether Berrios, Garver and Chargois are actually gaining anything by more AAA time or just marking time until the inevitable veteran failures, injuries and ineffectiveness. I know patience is a virtue but here I would just try the young guys and see what we have.   

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:08 PM

It's May 1, the Twins have lost all three of Vogelsgang's starts, after he goes 5 innings and gives up 3-4 runs in each.....and Berrios is doing what he did last year in AAA. What do you do?

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:08 PM

 

And I mean, to be fair, it's not like Berrios gave them reason last year to give him a free pass into the rotation 

 

You could replace Berrios with Hughes, Vogelsong or Santiago and the sentence would still be valid

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:08 PM

I had commented a while back on another thread that I wouldn't fret about Berrios starting the year in AAA, because he would likely be back by May (the month, that is). 

 

I should have added that the caveat to this was Trevor May 'taking' his place in the rotation - and Berrios replacing someone (Hector Santiago?) when he was called up. 

 

But, as prognosticated here - Berrios down so Vogelsong can get a spot? Blech. 

 

I don't disagree with any of the projections - I just wish they weren't sure to be so (depressingly) accurate. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:17 PM

Other than Adrianza, this looks about right

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:29 PM

I think you nailed it.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:38 PM

 

You could replace Berrios with Hughes, Vogelsong or Santiago and the sentence would still be valid

 

A little unusual to use the same qualifier for a player who has played one year as veterans, though

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:42 PM

 

A little unusual to use the same qualifier for a player who has played one year as veterans, though

 

Right, for a rebuilding team I would prefer the younger guy

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:45 PM

 

Right, for a rebuilding team I would prefer the younger guy

 

Until 2016 happens. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:49 PM

 

Until 2016 happens. 

 

I'd still rather go young. They didn't really go young, did they? It took them nearly all year to call up one RP. And, yup, Berrios sucked. But, he got a taste, and he should be better this year, and in 2018 and beyond when they might compete. 

 

It's almost like people refuse to acknowledge teams and young players struggle in a rebuild. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:50 PM

 

Until 2016 happens. 

 

2016 would have been better giving a washed up Ryan Vogelsong innings? 

 

Gotta see what you have in Berrios at some point

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:53 PM

I like Adrianza... for a veteran team.

I see no reason for Vogelsong in the starting rotation. Would much rather see a kid getting some MLB experience.

Nothing about this do I find encouraging except that Polanco is on the starting roster.

 

Sadly, I'm not at all sure that you're wrong.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:54 PM

 

I'd still rather go young. They didn't really go young, did they? It took them nearly all year to call up one RP. And, yup, Berrios sucked. But, he got a taste, and he should be better this year, and in 2018 and beyond when they might compete. 

 

It's almost like people refuse to acknowledge teams and young players struggle in a rebuild. 

 

Virtually the entire lineup was young last year. 

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:57 PM

I should be clear -- this is not how I'd _choose_ to structure the 25-man roster. Just how I see it playing out. 

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