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#2141 dnosler

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:11 PM

Dustin was one of the guys over here trying to call me out on TwinsDaily, and then bashing me on twitter (I had to block him)

I never "bashed" you on Twitter. I opined that your information re: Alvarez was untrue/unbelievable, and I was able to confirm that it was on my end. I never tweeted at you directly.

I have been following the threads, but this is only my third comment on this forum.
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#2142 ChiTownTwinsFan

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:14 PM

Moderator warning: Stop the back and forth and the accusations, please, before it gets caustic. One person's source said one thing, another's said another, another journalist says a third, and on and on ... until any of us knows exactly what's been said, not said, offered, not offered, please allow for everyone's RESPECTFUL speculation.

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#2143 DaveW

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:18 PM

I never "bashed" you on Twitter. I opined that your information re: Alvarez was untrue/unbelievable, and I was able to confirm that it was on my end. I never tweeted at you directly.

I have been following the threads, but this is only my third comment on this forum.

We will agree to disagree on your first paragraph, but you did tweet at me.

Maybe it wasn't you on this forum...but it was someone from the site. If it wasn't you I apologize.

Moving on we will see ultimately who was right when someone goes on the record or when the trade (likely) goes through.

Edited by DaveW, 11 January 2017 - 06:19 PM.

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#2144 dnosler

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:29 PM

We will agree to disagree on your first paragraph, but you did tweet at me.

Maybe it wasn't you on this forum...but it was someone from the site. If it wasn't you I apologize.

Moving on we will see ultimately who was right when someone goes on the record or when the trade (likely) goes through.

Dave, I would admit if I ever interacted with you on Twitter. I did not. And I don't appreciate the accusations on Twitter (when I cannot reply because you blocked me).

And I know what you're referring to on this forum. Trust me, it wasn't anyone who writes for the site. If anything, it was a reader, a person over whom I have no control.

#2145 DaveW

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:30 PM

Also to show there are no hard feelings:

I'm in LA for the next 36 hours, if you want to discuss our differing reports on what our sources have given us I will happily buy you a brew in Beverley Hills area to chat all things Dodgers Twins.

Edited by DaveW, 11 January 2017 - 06:31 PM.

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#2146 DaveW

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:31 PM

Dave, I would admit if I ever interacted with you on Twitter. I did not. And I don't appreciate the accusations on Twitter (when I cannot reply because you blocked me).

And I know what you're referring to on this forum. Trust me, it wasn't anyone who writes for the site. If anything, it was a reader, a person over whom I have no control.

If it wasn't you then it was someone who tagged you on twitter, sorry I am new to twitter so sometimes it's hard to figure out the specifics. Plenty of people from
Your site were harassing and trolling me though, if you say it wasn't you I will give you benefit of the doubt.
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#2147 ChiTownTwinsFan

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:36 PM

While this camaraderie is nice, please move this to PM's. :)

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#2148 DaveW

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:45 PM

Fwiw: just sent that tweet and message to source, they replied "alvarez definitely was in the offer and remains in offer along with JDL, issue has and remains Twins insistence on a third asset"

Not trying to start an argument, just passing on the info.
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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:10 PM

 

I honestly applaud your dedication to this at this point.  Call me a skeptic.  Mostly because I am a David and I have a natural distrust of anybody that chooses to go by Dave:) .  

So do I now!

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:52 PM

http://www.twincitie...g-brian-dozier/

Berardino says talks are tabled, not dead. Though the Dodgers will have to come calling if they want Dozier because the Twins are done calling and won't accept their current offer which did not include Alvarez, Buehler or Stewart.

Unless some way it instead included Bellinger who wasn't mentioned but assumed off limits, yeah, the Twins should walk.
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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:04 AM

 

http://www.twincitie...g-brian-dozier/

Berardino says talks are tabled, not dead. Though the Dodgers will have to come calling if they want Dozier because the Twins are done calling and won't accept their current offer which did not include Alvarez, Buehler or Stewart.

Unless some way it instead included Bellinger who wasn't mentioned but assumed off limits, yeah, the Twins should walk.

Very nice article.


#2152 DaveW

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:19 AM

http://www.twincitie...g-brian-dozier/

Berardino says talks are tabled, not dead. Though the Dodgers will have to come calling if they want Dozier because the Twins are done calling and won't accept their current offer which did not include Alvarez, Buehler or Stewart.

Unless some way it instead included Bellinger who wasn't mentioned but assumed off limits, yeah, the Twins should walk.

To be fair Beradino never said they didn't offer Alvarez etc, the article states "other reports state that" Alvarez wasn't included. Those other reports are dubious IMO

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#2153 TyTY23

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:35 AM

 

To be fair Beradino never said they didn't offer Alvarez etc, the article states "other reports state that" Alvarez wasn't included. Those other reports are dubious IMO

Actually he did, Beradino's sources informed him that Alvarez was never offered. He is referencing his source in his report.   

 

"The Dodgers, according to sources familiar with the talks, were willing to part with right-hander Jose De Leon, their top-rated pitching prospect, but steadfastly refused to include a second high-end pitching prospect such as Yadier Alvarez, Walker Buehler or even Brock Stewart."

 

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#2154 ShouldaCouldaWoulda

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:44 AM

 

While this camaraderie is nice, please move this to PM's. :)

Nah, I think it is good for us all to see things play out in a positive way now and then.

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:59 AM

Actually he did, Beradino's sources informed him that Alvarez was never offered. He is referencing his source in his report.

"The Dodgers, according to sources familiar with the talks, were willing to part with right-hander Jose De Leon, their top-rated pitching prospect, but steadfastly refused to include a second high-end pitching prospect such as Yadier Alvarez, Walker Buehler or even Brock Stewart."


I think that's surprising because none of those offers would have been overly strong. Just goes to show they think they can win without Dozier. If it blows up in their face, they could face a lot of criticism for not having a stronger commitment of winning during their prime opportunity years

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 01:47 AM

 

I'm then sure he brought up his small market concerns when reporting on trades or free agent moves involving CC Sabbathia, Cliff Lee, Victor Martinez, Carlos Beltran, Yoenis Cespedes, Johnny Cueto, Aroldis Chapman, David Price and Matt Holiday as well.

That could have been speculation on his part, or it could have been a concern the dodgers really have with him and his source brought it up. Either way it doesn't make him a shill.

Don't shoot the messenger.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 02:33 AM

 

I think that's surprising because none of those offers would have been overly strong. Just goes to show they think they can win without Dozier. If it blows up in their face, they could face a lot of criticism for not having a stronger commitment of winning during their prime opportunity years

Or just get a different 2nd basemen at some point next year.


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Posted 12 January 2017 - 05:24 AM

 

I honestly applaud your dedication to this at this point.  Call me a skeptic.  Mostly because I am a David and I have a natural distrust of anybody that chooses to go by Dave:) .  

Just don't call us 'Davey' ......

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:26 AM

Just don't call us 'Davey' ......


Goliath will be bummed...
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#2160 spycake

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 08:25 AM

Dave, does your source say that negotiations are still going on?  And if so, what could they possibly be talking about after a month of discussions?