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#81 AlwaysinModeration

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:22 AM

Whew, 80 comments. Not a lot of joy in Mudville these days. Good game by Santana. He's certainly built his trade value as much as he could possible hope down the stretch towards Aug 1. However, it seems more and more like Antony isn't going to trade him.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:08 AM

 

7 left on not 18.

Hmmm, enlighten me.I'm looking at the MLB.com boxscore from last night.It says 18 LOB for the Twins, 8 LOB for the Braves.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:10 AM

 

18? We can leave more than that!

Why, the theoretical max is 27!

Is that part of the Sabermetrics? 

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:33 AM

 

Hmmm, enlighten me.I'm looking at the MLB.com boxscore from last night.It says 18 LOB for the Twins, 8 LOB for the Braves.

You're looking at the combined amount of LOB left on for each batter instead of the team total.For example: If the leadoff guy gets on base and then three outs happen, each of the three batters had one guy LOB (for a total of three), but the team only had one cause there was really only one guy on base.Hard to leave 18 guys on base when only eight reached base, no? :-)

 

And here is the MLB Box score

 

http://m.mlb.com/gam...al,game_tab=box

 

Look below the box score, under 'Batting'.At the bottom it says team LOB: 7.Right above, it lists how the team did with RISP.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:44 AM

 

You're looking at the amount of LOB left on for each batter instead of the team total.For example: If the leadoff guy gets on base and then three outs happen, each of the three batters had one guy LOB (for a total of three), but the team only had one cause there was really only one guy on base.Hard to leave 18 guys on base when only eight reached base, no? :-)

 

And here is the MLB Box score

 

http://m.mlb.com/gam...al,game_tab=box

 

Look below the box score, under 'Batting'.At the bottom it says team LOB: 7.Right above, it lists how the team did with RISP.

Oh crap.Damn statistics anyhow :)

 

Thanks for the info.Yeah, I was looking at the total under the player stats. Pretty useless stat then....RISP of 11.Ish...

Edited by HitInAPinch, 27 July 2016 - 06:45 AM.

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#86 jimmer

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:49 AM

 

Oh crap.Damn statistics anyhow :)

 

Thanks for the info.Yeah, I was looking at the total under the player stats. Pretty useless stat then....

Well, the combined total (in this case 18) yeah it's pretty worthless.I never use it.I mean, should a guy really be charged a LOB if he doesn't make a hit that drives a guy home from 1st?I concern myself more with the team RISP number.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

Is that part of the Sabermetrics?


Simple ar-thmatic.

Part of the ars taught in pirate school.

3 bases, 9 innings, filler up.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:57 AM

Well, the combined total (in this case 18) yeah it's pretty worthless. I never use it. I mean, should a guy really be charged a LOB if he doesn't make a hit that drives a guy home from 1st? I concern myself more with the team RISP number.


Yeah, numbers tend to mean what they say rather than what you want...

Bu i kinda assumed it was sopphisticated enough not to charge any lob to those who don't get out...

But it still rewards double players for not leaving said runner on.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 09:59 AM

 

Yeah, numbers tend to mean what they say rather than what you want...

Bu i kinda assumed it was sopphisticated enough not to charge any lob to those who don't get out...

But it still rewards double players for not leaving said runner on.

huh?sorry,I don't really understand this post.

 

If you followed the discussion, the point is, the team (as a whole), had 7 LOB, not 18.When only 8 guys get on base all game, it's hard for the team to leave 18 on base.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:04 AM

Well, the combined total (in this case 18) yeah it's pretty worthless. I never use it. I mean, should a guy really be charged a LOB if he doesn't make a hit that drives a guy home from 1st? I concern myself more with the team RISP number.


I suppose comparing team lob and sum of individual lob says how long they were left there on average.

If they are equal, no one got on base until there were 2 outs.
If one is 3x the other, everyone got on before any outs (i actually could be wrong on how double plays work... or pick offs and sundry base running events)

Anyway... what, 8 hours until today's rematch?

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:15 AM

huh? sorry, I don't really understand this post.

If you followed the discussion, the point is, the team (as a whole), had 7 LOB, not 18. When only 8 guys get on base all game, it's hard for the team to leave 18 on base.


Sorry.

I meant to say the number 18 still means something, it just signifies something different.

In this context, it just means they had more chances to do something with the runners, than say if they had 12 total individual lob but still 7 team lob.

But yeah. All triviata. Scores are what matter in the end, and we didn't.

Sorry i conflated the two to begin with. Mea culpa.
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Posted 27 July 2016 - 11:53 AM

Suffice to say...lots of missed RBI opportunities.

But enough about Mauer.



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#93 Mike Sixel

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 11:54 AM

I logged on around 730 my time to check the score and thread.....and it was overish....wow.

 

Given the post count, seems like no one else paid attention either.

It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 12:03 PM

 

I logged on around 730 my time to check the score and thread.....and it was overish....wow.

 

Given the post count, seems like no one else paid attention either.

I was at the movies


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 12:13 PM

 

Suffice to say...lots of missed RBI opportunities.

But enough about Mauer.



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you so smooth.......

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#96 Mike Sixel

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 12:16 PM

 

I was at the movies

 

What did you see? Was it good?

It's been a fun year so far, GO Twins. 


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 12:20 PM

 

What did you see? Was it good?

The new Star Trek and it was very good.The trailers didn't do it justice, which is a shame, and I think that hurt it's box office numbers.




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