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#1 TKGuy

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:23 PM

According to Ken Rosenthal

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:33 PM

A tear drops the Texas Ranger's eye... so sad:(

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:39 PM

Kinda disappointed... wanted him to go to the Sux and both to implode... oh well.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:44 PM

Here is what they got back (prospect rankings in Angels' organization and overall according to BA) : SS Jean Segura #2 (#55 overall) RHP Johnny Hellweg #4 RHP Ariel Pena #9
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:50 PM

Not impressed by the haul at all
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:51 PM

Maybe the Rangers will want to counter with Frankie

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:52 PM

Great trade for the Angels

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:52 PM

Not impressed by the haul at all


What? They traded a rental player for 3 top 10 prospects from another system....what are you expecting?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:54 PM

Segura definaely a plus ..... Hellweg has massive control problems & is fringe IMO but Pena has been outstanding in AA & is the 2nd piece that'll be a major league starter

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:54 PM

Kinda disappointed... wanted him to go to the Sux and both to implode... oh well.


Yeh... that would have been really, really enjoyable.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:58 PM

Brew Crew gave up a ton to KC, I think Angels got better of deal

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:05 PM

The Brewers controlled Grienke for 2 years when dealing for him, not 2-3 months.....

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:12 PM

What? They traded a rental player for 3 top 10 prospects from another system....what are you expecting?


The Brewers were seeking top-20 guys to headline a deal with other teams, but they take a guy who wasn't a top-50 guy. In the midseason top 120 that John Sickels did, Segura was #78, and Hellweg was an honorable mention. I figured at least three of Segura, Garrett Richards, CJ Cron, Kaleb Cowart, Hellweg, or Taylor Lindsay would be part of anything for Greinke from the Angels.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:35 PM

Rental players have less value this year. The receiving team can not get the comp picks. The trading team knows that they will get one pick instead of two if they retain the player. Both work to lessen the value of the player.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:45 PM

Rental players have less value this year.

The receiving team can not get the comp picks. The trading team knows that they will get one pick instead of two if they retain the player. Both work to lessen the value of the player.


And the reported asking price has started with Julio Teheran in Atlanta, with Mike Olt in Texas, and Xander Bogaerts from the Red Sox, then they take Segura as the headliner. Seems like way too little.
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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

Seems too little, but the three far exceed the value of one comp pick after the first round. The biggest mistake would be to do nothing. They had to take the best deal on the table. The Twins will be in the same position with Liriano. Maybe worse. They may not risk offering him 12.5 million to get the comp pick.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:12 PM

This is good. They got a decent package for him, and the angels are off the market. The angels were the team we didn't match up nearly as well with...