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#1 J-Dog Dungan

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:19 PM

Well, it doesn't surprise me, but according to Jon Morosi's Twitter feed/MLBTR, there is a lot of interest from other teams around Glen Perkins (I was kind of wondering when we would start getting calls about him). The Twins' asking price, just like for most of the other pieces that they don't have to trade this year (Willingham, Morneau, and Span), is apparently "very high".

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:43 PM

perkins or doumit should be packaged with span and sent to the reds for hamilton,cingriani and corcino

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:07 PM

No problem dealing Perk or Burton Orioles looking for a LH reliever, so package him with Frankie

Edited by TKGuy, 27 July 2012 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:31 PM

perkins or doumit should be packaged with span and sent to the reds for hamilton,cingriani and corcino


If I'm the Reds, I'm thinking that that sounds like an awfully high asking price.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:00 PM

No need to rush to trade perkins at this point and his value with only get higher as he continues to flourish in the closer role.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:03 PM

Perkins numbers are not that good this season (or any season outside of last year). I'd have no issue dealing him for something good but don't trade him just to trade him (essentially like every potential deal).

#7 J-Dog Dungan

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:08 PM

We just signed this guy to a 3-year extension. Let's give it until AT LEAST NEXT YEAR before we even think about trading Perkins. He is a very solid (and 97% reliable) presence out in the bullpen, and it is a guy who has been with the Twins his entire career.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:41 PM

Ya, because if you can get a guy that can play every day, or start, you want to hold onto a guy that pitches 60 innings a year....

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:06 PM

Perkins numbers are not that good this season


I'd contest that a 3.09 ERA is pretty decent. He had a couple of fluky bad outings. I don't think there's any indication he's any less dominant than last year. He's probably as good as all but a small handful of closers, and he can be our closer, cheap, both during and after the rebuild. And he's a local boy who presumably signed cheap in hopes he'd get to stay in MN. He should be kept.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

I'd contest that a 3.09 ERA is pretty decent. He had a couple of fluky bad outings. I don't think there's any indication he's any less dominant than last year. He's probably as good as all but a small handful of closers, and he can be our closer, cheap, both during and after the rebuild. And he's a local boy who presumably signed cheap in hopes he'd get to stay in MN. He should be kept.


You are right that he is appearing better than last year, at least in effectiveness. Several of his less meaningless stats, BB/9, K/9, and K/BB are all up or down; BB/9- 3.1 in 2011, 2.7 so far in 2012; K/9-9.5 in 2011, 10.5 so far in 2012; K/BB-3.10 in 2011, 3.92 so far in 2012

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 08:44 PM

Ya, because if you can get a guy that can play every day, or start, you want to hold onto a guy that pitches 60 innings a year....



BIG IF!!! for 8th inning guy maybe closer....what do you expect to get really??? He's cheap and if he indeed turns into our full time closer next yr it will be at a clearance rack price.

#12 John Bonnes

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:30 PM

I'd take a B pitching prospect for him. I might take a c+ pitching prospect. You can find relievers when our team sucks.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 10:48 PM

I'd take a B pitching prospect for him. I might take a c+ pitching prospect. You can find relievers when our team sucks.


I don't understand the rationale for taking a c+ prospect. Isn't that something that the Twins have in abundance?

And it seems to me that Perkins is extra valuable because he has a superior fastball and he has a good track record as a reliever.

You are probably correct. You know a lot more than I do. But Perkins seems very valuable to me and a c+ prospect does not seem fair. I would love to be educated as to why you might consider dealing him for a c+.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:04 PM

If you're going to deal a reliever, I nominate Burton.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:08 PM

I'd take a B pitching prospect for him. I might take a c+ pitching prospect. You can find relievers when our team sucks.


As we know, Perkins had just signed a long term deal with a nice hometown discount. Perkins stated that playing in his home State was important to him.
Do we really think that Ryan will trade him away before the ink is even dry on his contract, and for a C+ prospect?
We have to remind ourselves, that it's not always about numbers and statistics. There are actual people involve too.
Ryan does not want a reputation of burning players who show some good will towards his Organization.
Trade him if there is a blow away offer. Burning him for a low to average prospect would be foolish.

Edited by Highabove, 27 July 2012 - 11:14 PM.


#16 jorgenswest

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:31 PM

I think Perkins has a better chance at being a useful starting pitcher than the return they would get. His recent success can not be exclusively linked to the relief role. You can see the addition of the slider also correlates to his success. Starting pitchers are so valuable and rare, the Twins should consider the possibility of using him on the rotation next year.