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[70charger]

I was mightily unimpressed with the Kiriloff draft pick but everything I've read in recent months is "beast mode". It appears he may be legit.

I’m in the same boat and pretty thrilled to have been wrong about him, at least so far. Let’s hooe he keeps it up.

[ashburyjohn]

Wow, I think the adjective for Kiriloff and this article would be "gushing"

The bar is pretty high for corner fielders, but if the team sees him as having a bat that will put him above average even for that cohort, then I'm wrong to have suggested packaging him for an established veteran. Competent corner players can be acquired cheaply, but beyond a certain level they carry a team offensively and are hard to get. Certainly his current performance isn't hurting his ceiling.

[TheLeviathan]

 

The bar is pretty high for corner fielders, but if the team sees him as having a bat that will put him above average even for that cohort, then I'm wrong to have suggested packaging him for an established veteran. Competent corner players can be acquired cheaply, but beyond a certain level they carry a team offensively and are hard to get. Certainly his current performance isn't hurting his ceiling.

 

Right, the one manager basically said they gave him the Barry Bonds treatment.That's nuts.

[Mike Sixel]

Go A's!
2:02 What is Miguel Sano still doing in the minors?How is this going to shake out?
Dan Szymborski
2:03 They're taking their time, realistically speaking the 2018 season is over, so they're being cautious.Really, he should be slugging 1200 or something down there!
laughing 1cool 1
Michael
2:03 When is Sano back in the show? Doing better but still only single A...
Dan Szymborski
2:04 HEY ARE YOU TWO THE SAME DUDE

 

Eddie
2:20 Better prospect...Jo Adell or royce lewis?
Dan Szymborski
2:20 May be Adell right now
2:21 and Lewis is damn good

 

54
2:42 What is the most interesting potential Machado destination to you?
Dan Szymborski
2:42 Philadelphia becuase they could then literally take him off the market quickly
cool 4
2:43 I also had a dream that the O's traded him to the Twins for Gordon, Thorpe, and Rooker, and the Twins signed him

 

Rufus
2:49 % chance that the Twins do not finish 2nd in their division?
Dan Szymborski
2:49 10?
I'm pulling that

 

mike sixel
2:57 Can MN catch CLE? If not, should they deal Kyle Gibson at peak value, he has a year of control left and has been very good since they changed his approach last year.
Dan Szymborski
2:57 I think it's unlikely.
I'd at least listen to Gibson offers.

 

Guest
3:08 Went and saw sano yesterday in lakeland. His family was there and they all look like him. Even the girls.

 

https://www.fangraph...-16-18-2-pm-et/

Edited by Mike Sixel, 16 July 2018 - 01:10 PM.

[Mike Sixel]

Read the intro paragraphs.....sound familiar?

 

https://www.fangraph...ng-in-st-louis/

 

[KirbyDome89]

 

Read the intro paragraphs.....sound familiar?

 

https://www.fangraph...ng-in-st-louis/

Eerily. 

 

I liked that they acknowledged that the FO was complicit but IMO they went a little easy on them. If Matheny was that much of a problem and the FO let it persist to the point where the team torpedoed then they're probably more responsible for the disaster. 

[gunnarthor]

Futures game thread at minor league ball has a few comments about Kiriloff. All positive. https://www.minorlea...scussion-thread

[Vanimal46]

A Twins player made Kiley McDaniels' Trade Value Chart...

https://www.fangraph...value-41-to-50/

[Mike Sixel]

Twins OF Alex Kirilloff and, shockingly, Padres CF Buddy Reed had opposite-field-heavy approaches during BP. Kirilloff’s feel for airborne contact, which he has displayed since high school, is remarkably consistent

 

https://www.fangraph...game-was-black/

 

The article is about the futures game, and race.....with that blurb at the end.

 

[ashburyjohn]

A Twins player made Kiley McDaniels' Trade Value Chart...

https://www.fangraph...value-41-to-50/

"When you see trade rumors to the effect that a club on the outskirts of contention is looking for “controllable starting pitching,” [Berrios] is the guy they’re hoping to get."

 

Um.... interesting? But relevant to what, exactly?

[Mike Sixel]

 

"When you see trade rumors to the effect that a club on the outskirts of contention is looking for “controllable starting pitching,” [Berrios] is the guy they’re hoping to get."

 

Um.... interesting? But relevant to what, exactly?

 

this series of articles, I'd guess? I don't understand the question.

[ashburyjohn]

this series of articles, I'd guess? I don't understand the question.

Nothing wrong with the relevance to this thread. Just relevance to reality, on the part of the writer. He can profile J.O. Berrios all he wants. There won't be a trade. Trade Value can be anything he wants to say.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Nothing wrong with the relevance to this thread. Just relevance to reality, on the part of the writer. He can profile J.O. Berrios all he wants. There won't be a trade. Trade Value can be anything he wants to say.

 

Uh. What? They talk to scouts, teams, and others to determine relative trade value. Sure, he could just make up whatever he wants, but that's not a fair statement of the effort put into this series. 

[Monkeypaws]

 

A Twins player made Kiley McDaniels' Trade Value Chart...

https://www.fangraph...value-41-to-50/

 

Kind of gives a first hand view of the ideas you see about acquiring Archer, Realmuto, etc. Seems absurd to consider.

[Mike Sixel]

Twins
Status: Probably sellers
For Sale: Not a ton as, while they have underachieved this year, there is a good young core on this team that the Twins are going to give a chance to bounce back. Brian Dozier could be moved, though, as could the finishing-piece veterans the Twins brought in thinking that they’d contend this year. Guys like Fernando Rodney and Lance Lynn could be dealt. No blockbusters seem likely to run through Minnesota, however.

 

https://mlb.nbcsport...league-central/

 

[Mike Sixel]

Weinshie
1:17 Have you had a look at Alex Kirilloff yet? If so, your thoughts.
Keith Law
1:17 Yes. He's on the top 50 today, linked up top.

[Mike Sixel]

JP
1:07 It's obviously time to worry about Byron Buxton in the batter's box.But how worried on the 1-10 scale should we be?
Jay Jaffe
1:09 playing though the broken toe and the migraine issues is almost certainly a factor in his performance, and they'll wind up burning a year of his club control in a noncompetitive situation in part due to that. I still think the upside is very high but that they need to manage him more closely, and encourage him NOT to just "tough it out" in order to get the most out of him.

 

https://www.fangraph...s-chat-7-19-18/

[Mike Sixel]

mike sixel
1:44 Kyle Gibson on that list of guys to trade now, rather than wait? Or can the Twins compete next year?
Keith Law
1:44 I think they think they can compete next year, so perhaps not.

[Mike Sixel]

Sean
5:21 Now that Machado has been moved, who do you see as the next major piece to be moved?
Jason Martinez
5:22 Moustakas, Eduardo Escobar and Brian Dozier all come to mind. I think we'll at least get some Realmuto rumors, but I'm not ready to say he'll probably get traded. Makes more sense in the offseason.

 

Billy Heywood
5:28 You think the Brew Crew should go after deGrom?
Jason Martinez
5:30 Yes, but I don't think they will. More likely to add a 2B (Dozier, Gennett, Escobar, Merrifield, Asdrubal, Kinsler are all options).

 

Dozier's home
5:37 Where do I land outside of Minny?
Jason Martinez
5:38 Milwaukee makes a lot of sense. Not too many other teams in need of a 2B. Maybe the Red Sox if they've given up on Pedroia returning to health in '18.

 

Dozier
5:51 What would a deal for Dozier to the Brewers look like? Hiura? Burnes?
Jason Martinez
5:53 No, they won't trade one of their best prospects for a rental. They have some good arms in the 10-20 range of their system.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Edited by Mike Sixel, 19 July 2018 - 12:50 PM.