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#1 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:23 PM

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#2 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:30 PM

Twins:
Span CF
Revere RF
Mauer DH
Willingham LF
Morneau 1B
Plouffe 3B
Dozier SS
Butera C
Carroll 2B
(Liriano P)

Orioles:
Markakis RF

Hardy SS
Jones CF
Wieters DH
Reynolds 1B
Pearce LF
Betemit 3B
Teagarden C
Tolleson 2B
(Hunter P)

#3 GCTF

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:27 PM

Read your story, it's not a getaway game. They're doing a nooner tomorrow. You're welcome.

There is no May and Mayer. They're made up.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:37 PM

Butera hitting before Carroll in the 8-hole... again.... brilliant. Have we ever been given an explanation why?
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

Butera hitting before Carroll in the 8-hole... again.... brilliant. Have we ever been given an explanation why?


Where would you have him hit?

#6 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:39 PM

Read your story, it's not a getaway game. They're doing a nooner tomorrow.

You're welcome.


I no read so good.

#7 Ultima Ratio

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:41 PM

9th, you?

#8 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:41 PM

Where would you have him hit?


Rochester.

New Britain.

Ft Myers.

Mexico City.

I'm not picky.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:42 PM

Rochester.

New Britain.

Ft Myers.

Mexico City.

I'm not picky.


That was slow pitch easy.
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#10 IdahoPilgrim

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:47 PM

9th, you?


I'm not an expert, but my understanding is, when the DH is being used, you usually put your weakest hitters in the 7 & 8 spots. The 9th spot is used for a better hitter, usually with a good onbase percentage.

#11 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:47 PM

That was slow pitch easy.


Yep, and I happily took it.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:53 PM

Per Baseball-Reference - splits for Jamey Carroll Batting 2nd: .223/.320/.259 Batting 7th: .250/.250/.250 Batting 8th: .174/.296/.174 Batting 9th: .262/.331/.322 I think him batting 9th is just fine.

Edited by IdahoPilgrim, 18 July 2012 - 03:56 PM.


#13 diehardtwinsfan

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

Where would you have him hit?


Rochester

#14 Ultima Ratio

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

And when there's two outs, runners on, and Butera comes up we'll be thankful for Carroll's increase average leading off the next inning. :)
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

Where would you have him hit?


The nuts.

#16 IdahoPilgrim

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:16 PM

And when there's two outs, runners on, and Butera comes up we'll be thankful for Carroll's increase average leading off the next inning. :)


Uh...and that wouldn't be a problem if he was batting ninth? I'm not questioning that Butera is the weakest hitter in the lineup, but that's not going to change no matter what position he bats in.

Anyway, you asked for a reason. I gave you a couple - it's common practice with the DH, and Carroll split's. Nobody's saying you have to accept the reasons - trash them if you like.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:41 PM

I think Gardy likes a little speed ahead of Span and Revere, for bunt, hit & run.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:47 PM

Anyway, you asked for a reason. I gave you a couple - it's common practice with the DH, and Carroll split's.


The first reason is a good one, the second not so much. It's a meaningless split, especially given the size of the sample.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:25 PM

Liriano is not helping his trade value by giving up 2 runs in the 1st. Is he focusing too much on striking people out?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:27 PM

Liriano is not helping his trade value by giving up 2 runs in the 1st. Is he focusing too much on striking people out?


The Cult of Liriano scores games differently. It's currently 2-2. Liriano's Ks-Runs Scored Against. You're not properly valuing our stud frontliner.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:32 PM

Liriano is not helping his trade value by giving up 2 runs in the 1st. Is he focusing too much on striking people out?


No, I don't think he is focusing on serving up K's. If I am correct, I believe that MLB has mandated a new rule for the Twins that they have to give up no less than 2 HRs a game. My thinking is he is trying to get the Home Runs out the way - that way he can focus on his game plan.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

[quote name='Bark's Lounge;35470]No' date=' I don't think he is focusing on serving up K's. If I am correct, I believe that MLB has mandated a new rule for the Twins that they have to give up no less than 2 HRs a game. My thinking is he is trying to get the Home Runs out the way - that way he can focus on his game plan.[/QUOTE']

I wish that he would give up the home runs when there is no one on base.

#23 GCTF

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:35 PM

The Cult of Liriano.


lulz.

There is no May and Mayer. They're made up.


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

I wish that he would give up the home runs when there is no one on base.


I get you. I don't think he has a filter in his thought process to weed those kind of things out.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:39 PM

I get you. I don't think he has a filter in his thought process to weed those kind of things out.


Maybe he got the memo confused and thought he could just give up a 2-run HR instead of 2 HR.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:43 PM

Maybe he got the memo confused and thought he could just give up a 2-run HR instead of 2 HR.


Good point. You might be on to something.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

According to Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com, the Angels are willing to offer outfielder Peter Bourjos for "the right reliever." Knobler hears the Angels had interest in Matt Capps (shoulder) before he hit the DL and could have interest in Jonathan Broxton. Of course, Bourjos would be quite a price to pay for either reliever, so they are likely aiming higher. With that in mind, Knobler hears that the Angels have had discussions with the Nationals. The Angels are also on the lookout for rotation help and have suggested to teams that Kendrys Morales and Garrett Richards could be available in potential deals.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:55 PM

The Cult of Liriano scores games differently. It's currently 2-2. Liriano's Ks-Runs Scored Against. You're not properly valuing our stud frontliner.


If I were a member of the Cult, we would now be winning this game. Please pass the Kool-Ade.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:34 PM

Liriano is starting to pitch behind in the count - not a good sign. Hopefully he can hold it together a couple more innings.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:43 PM

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