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#1 PMKI

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 04:22 PM

When August 1, 2012 comes around which current Twins players do you see not being on the roster?

#2 IdahoPilgrim

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:05 PM

Capps will be gone, and probably Liriano too. If Pavano had been healthy and effective, I'd add him to the list, but I think his injury will cool interest, since he is a free agent at the end of the year - he probably can't add to a contender this year, so teams will wait to see how he bounces back and possibly offer him a contract after the year. I think there will be offers for Span and Willingham, but I'm not certain what we will be offered in return will be enough to justify a trade.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:13 PM

Off the 25-man roster (alphabetically) : Capps Casilla Fien Gray Liriano Morneau Pavano Span - PJ Walters, Parmelee and Blackburn return and some new blood as well
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:40 PM

Liriano and Capps traded. Oliveros, Walters, Blackburn, Hendriks, Parmelee back on. Deduno, DeVries, Gray or Fien off. Whatever injury replacements are needed.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:28 PM

Off the 25-man roster (alphabetically) :

Capps
Casilla
Fien
Gray
Liriano
Morneau
Pavano
Span

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PJ Walters, Parmelee and Blackburn return and some new blood as well

No way they move that many guys

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:34 PM

No way they move that many guys


Prolly true, but jr had his panties in a major wad on the radio show today. He sounded motivated to try and make something happen.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

Off the 25-man roster (alphabetically) :

Capps
Casilla
Fien
Gray
Liriano
Morneau
Pavano
Span


Do you really think they'll move that many, or is that a wish list. I doubt they would trade Morneau, although personally I am very open to the idea. I also doubt they will move Casilla, at least not mid-season.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:14 PM

I don't care to speculate too much on who will be on or off the roster on 8-1-12, but David Phelps will be on our roster at that time, being part of the Liriano trade to the Yanks for Phelps, Austin Romine, and Brandon Laird.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:35 PM

[quote name='Bark's Lounge;34342]I don't care to speculate too much on who will be on or off the roster on 8-1-12' date=' but David Phelps will be on our roster at that time, being part of the Liriano trade to the Yanks for Phelps, Austin Romine, and Brandon Laird.[/QUOTE']

Interesting. I had been thinking that a trade for Phelps, Romine and another piece made sense. Perhaps Laird, but I think Ryan would try to target an arm rather than a bat.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:41 PM

Yeah, I think Ryan will try, but this is the best of what he will get - speculatively.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

I expect Span, Capps, and Liriano to be gone. If Pavano gets back and pitches effectively in August, they may trade him at the waiver deadline. Morneau's injury history, performance and contract probably make him untradeable.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:54 PM

Lirano Capps (or gone in August) Pavano (maybe someone will claim him in August) Blackburn back in July (then put on waivers in August) Valencia on waivers but no claim Toshi on waivers but no claim Span Casilla on waivers ion August Carroll on waivers in August but no claim Gray sent down P.J. sent back Deduno sent back surpirse, Morneau is traded

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:44 PM

Liriano is think is a strong possibility, but I wouldn't be shocked if he stays. Span is another possibility, but I don't think there will be enough value for him.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:26 AM

Capps and Burton. Casilla. Pray for Pavano as well, but that is unlikely. Danny Valencia can be involved in a trade as well.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:31 AM

Sell low candidates: Morneau, Pavano, Valencia. Don't trade them because they bring back only a fraction of their real value. Sell high candidate: Willingham--don't trade him if you want FAs to come to Minnesota. However, I can't see him sustaining his slugging for the whole year. I think that if the Twins can get fair value for Liriano, Span and Capps, they should pull the trigger on all three.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:48 AM

Off the 25-man roster (alphabetically) :

Capps
Casilla
Fien
Gray
Liriano
Morneau
Pavano
Span

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PJ Walters, Parmelee and Blackburn return and some new blood as well


Between his big contract and injury history, Morneau won't draw an offer worth taking. Pavano won't be traded while he's still on the DL (which he probably will be until August).

Fien and Gray aren't going to be sent off unless they completely implode. They've both been adequate, but not good enough to draw trade interest. There isn't really anyone beating down the door for a bullpen spot. Why risk losing a player for nothing that is doing their job just to give a kid who hasn't earned a spot yet an extended tryout? Remember, any of the guys down in the minors could be back up here Sept. 1 anyways without having to throw someone away.



And why in the bloody hell do people think Casilla is going anywhere? He isn't drawing trade interest (mostly because he isn't playing on a day-to-day basis). There is ZERO reason to DFA him. Who's progress is he impeding? Who is going to replace him? How is getting rid of him (or Carroll for that matter) going to help the team right now? What harm is it possibly going to do to keep him and Carroll where they are until the end of the season?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:49 AM

I'm pretty sure that Liriano, Capps, and Span will be traded. The Twins will try to get rid of Pavano post-trade deadline but I'm not sure they'll be able to pull it off with his bad shoulder. Casilla will probably be dumped.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:52 AM

If Liriano is not traded I will be shocked.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:55 AM

Lirano
Capps (or gone in August)
Pavano (maybe someone will claim him in August)
Blackburn back in July (then put on waivers in August)
Valencia on waivers but no claim
Toshi on waivers but no claim
Span
Casilla on waivers ion August
Carroll on waivers in August but no claim
Gray sent down
P.J. sent back
Deduno sent back

surpirse, Morneau is traded


The only reason to waive any of these guys is if we can work an after-the-deadline trade. There is no advantage in any way to just dump these guys mid-season.