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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame)

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#1 Cody Christie

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:28 AM

My first Twins game was May 30, 1994 when the Twins took on the Seattle Mariners. As a kid, I was excited to be at my first big league game but it's fun to look back on the caliber of players in both line-ups. Future Hall of Famers Kirby Puckett, Randy Johnson, and Dave Winfield all played in the game.Two other members of that Mariners team are prominently featured on this year's Hall of Fame ballot, Ken Griffey Jr. and Edgar Martinez. Griffey is in his first year of eligibility and he will be enshrined this year with close to 100% of the vote. Martinez has been on multiple ballots but he doesn't get as much support since he played the majority of his career at designated hitter.

Besides Griffey's almost assured enshrinement, there will likely be others to join him in Cooperstown this summer. Here's a look at the 2016 Hall of Fame Ballot in three different categories: the Class of 2016, Future Inductions, and May Never Get In (But Still On My Ballot).

Class of 2016
Jeff Bagwell: It's going to be close but I think Bagwell gets just over 75% of the vote needed to get into the Hall of Fame. There are some who have questioned his candidacy because he was a big power hitter in the midst of the steroids era. Bagwell is tied with Ty Cobb for third most seasons with a .420+OBP, .540+ SLG, and 15+ stolen bases. Only Ed Delahanty and Barry Bonds are higher on the list.

Ken Griffey Jr: The only question surrounding Griffey is whether or not he will be listed on 100% of the ballots. There has never been a Hall of Famer listed on 100% of the ballots and that trend will likely continue this year. Griffey battled through numerous injuries in his career, otherwise he might be considered the greatest player in the history of the game. His tremendous defense in center field and his sweet swing at the plate make him a hands down pick for the class of 2016.

Mike Piazza: He may go down as the best hitting catcher of all time and this should be enough to get him in on his fourth time on the ballot. Much like Bagwell, there have been some who haven't voted for him because of him being a power hitter in the steroid era. I think he makes it in this year and does it pretty easily. If Bagwell falls short, this year's class might only include Griffey and Piazza.

Future Inductions
Tim Raines: Raines continues to gain steam in recent years and I think he falls just short on this year's ballot which will set him up for election in 2017, his last year on the ballot. He is one of the best leadoff hitters ever. He is fifth in stolen bases, 13th in stolen base percentage, and 41st in win probability added. He will need a 20 percent increase from last year's ballot and that might be too much to do in one year.

Curt Schilling: Schilling is one of the most dominant postseason pitchers of all time and the longevity of his career should help his case. He has received under 40% of the vote in each of his three years on the ballot but he should see a big jump this season. It will likely take a few more years but he should get in at some point.

Trevor Hoffman: For a few seasons, he held the all-time record for career saves before being passed by Mariano Rivera. Even as a relief pitcher, he finished second in the Cy Young voting twice and had two other top six finishes. He was the first pitcher to reach 500 saves and one of two players to have reached the 600 save mark. Relief pitchers have a tough time getting in but he was a trailblazer at the position.

May Never Get In (But Still On My Ballot)
Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Edgar Martinez, Mike Mussina
Even though they are two of the best players of all time, Bonds and Clemens have the cloud of steroids surrounding their candidacies. Martinez was a designated hitter and it seems like the voters are holding that against him even though he has strong numbers as a power hitter. Mussina was a good pitcher for a long time but he won't get enough support and he was the last name on my ballot.

Others on the ballot: Garret Anderson, Brad Ausmus, Luis Castillo, David Eckstein, Jim Edmonds, Nomar Garciaparra, Troy Glaus, Mark Grudzielanek, Mike Hampton, Jason Kendall, Jeff Kent, Mike Lowell, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Gary Sheffield, Lee Smith, Sammy Sosa, Mike Sweeney, Alan Trammel, Billy Wagner, Larry Walker, Randy Winn

So who do you think gets in? Who else should have been on my ballot? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 07:46 AM

Let's ignore the PED debate.I've always been iffy on Raines.He had a great peak but it was really short.He only had 6 seasons that were really HOF worthy, I think.in 21 seasons, he had fewer 4 WAR seasons than Jack Morris and Keith Hernandez and same number as John Olerud, Brad Radke and Tony Oliva.I think his peak was just too short.


That said, if you think Raines is a HOFer, I don't know how you could not vote for Nomar whose peak was much better - unless you're using the compiler method. 

#3 Seth Stohs

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 08:14 AM

If I had a ballot, these ten players would be checked:


Barry Bonds, Rogers Clemens, Ken Griffey, Jr., Mike Mussina, Tim Raines, Mike Piazza, Gary Sheffield, Curt Schilling, Mark McGwire and Jeff Bagwell.


I feel that there is a great case to be made for, but because I'm limited to ten, I can't put them ahead of others:


Nomar Garciaparra, Trevor Hoffman, Jeff Kent, Fred McGriff, Sammy Sosa


I think these guys will get in:


Griffey is an easy choice. Piazza should finally get in. And I think Raines will be right there, very close to 75% Could go either way. 


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 09:23 AM

As a small Hall advocate I find a number of recurring themes which do not deserve all the angst that they receive;



  • Will someone get 100% of the votes - this is a big who cares item for me.  Do they post the stats on the plaques?  If someone is making a statement who cares, that statement only gets aired because some writer is looking for a column in the doldrums of Winter.
  • Will the PEDS get in?  Again, who cares.  I am not for their induction and I do not feel that the Hall suffers from their absences.  In fact, until Rose came along, Shoeless Joe Jackson got the continuing poor guy press, then Rose who has become boring, and now it is the PEDS.  They get more publicity for not being in.  Look at the list of ridiculous inclusions in the hall - most of which we cannot list without research - Mary Marion comes to mind, but there are many more.  
  • The HOF is getting the 10 is not enough treatment, but we have not put in more than 5 in any year of my life so obviously the congestion, if it were truly memorable could have been fixed with a couple 10 player inductions, but the fact is, most of these guys are only good - a player like Raines was an all-star, but if he does not get into the Hall will anyone care in 10 years?  And Schilling - is good in the off season, this is not a post season HOF, he was good, but there are many good pitchers like Tommy John, Jim Kaat, Jack Morris who are not in and Schilling is just another very good pitcher, like Catfish Hunter and Jim Bunning, who should visit, but not be on the wall.  
  • I have visited the Hall and I really enjoyed it, but I liked the exhibits - who reads all those plaques?  The best thing about the elections is not who gets in, but the conversations and memories that surround the voting.
  • Which leads to my last point - the indignation of people like Buster Olney become really boring.  Vote or don't vote.  I do not care.
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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:19 PM

I used to care about the HOF...I don't anymore...too many borderline guys got in (Carter, Marty Marion, Catfish)...without Bonds and Clemons and Rose and Shoeless Joe it feels incomplete. I agree with Mike until Kaat and Tommy John get in, why worry about Mussina and Schilling.
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Posted 06 January 2016 - 04:27 PM

No, Bonds should not make it and should not be on the ballot. He is a fraud and what he did to the game of baseball is unforgivable.

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 05:52 PM

No, Bonds should not make it and should not be on the ballot. He is a fraud and what he did to the game of baseball is unforgivable.

I've already forgiven him.
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