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#41 James

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:03 PM

 

How about Colby Rasmus becoming the first player to ever accept a qualifying offer. History!

How about Wieters also accepting his qualifying offer!  

 

Two players in the same year!?!?!

You can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.


#42 bluechipper

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 03:27 PM

 

How about Wieters also accepting his qualifying offer!  

 

Two players in the same year!?!?!

What is happening!?!


#43 Mike Sixel

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 04:39 PM

 

Somebody has to be able to hit, though.

 

I was trying to give you hope.......What? Sign an ACE? That, um, that seems odd given where they are given how teams generally act. 

 

the other thing about the next FA class, it looks pretty barren......so, ya, that might make recovering harder unless they select college hitters that move fast.

I remain hopeful on Buxton and Sano.....but I'd not bet the franchise on them.


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 05:47 PM

 

I was trying to give you hope.......What? Sign an ACE? That, um, that seems odd given where they are given how teams generally act. 

 

the other thing about the next FA class, it looks pretty barren......so, ya, that might make recovering harder unless they select college hitters that move fast.

 

Signing a pitcher this offseason would actually be incredibly wise business. The pitching market this year is deeper with talent than it has been in ages and likely will be again due to players typically signing extensions to avoid free agency. The hitting market is basically what it typically is year to year, but this is a borderline historic free agent pitching market.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 07:29 PM

The Kimbrel trade appears to be a win win for both clubs and should make it obvious what direction the Padres are going (i.e. no interest in Plouffe).I was interested in Kimbrel for the Twins but giving up really good prospects for 3 yrs of a closer didn't seem like the best idea.  

 

I also hold on to the snowball's chance in hell that the Twins go after Zimmerman.This is an amazing SP class of FA's.4 aces are rarely available in the same year.It is probably rare that 2 consecutive FA classes have this kind of talent.

Is 2016 2017 2018 the year that a good pitching prospect is truly blocked by 5 good pitchers in the starting rotation? 

Offseason (noun) - a time to propose trades assuming opposing GM's can't do the same basic analysis


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Posted 13 November 2015 - 10:43 PM

Makes me sad that the Braves felt compelled to include Melvin/BJ Upton to move Kimbrel. Imagine the haul they could have received by trading him with three years of control instead of the two he has right now and without the rough patch Kimbrel experienced last year, basically his first hiccup in three years.

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 10:46 PM

Forgot to add the real first trade of the offseason:

 

Mariners acquire RHSP Nate Karns, LHRP CJ Riefenhauser, OF Boog Powell

 

Rays acquire RHRP Danny Farquhar, SS Brad Miller, 1B Logan Morrison

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Posted 13 November 2015 - 10:51 PM

Didnt take Dombrowski long to get comfortable.
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Posted 14 November 2015 - 12:14 AM

Didnt take Dombrowski long to get comfortable.


If only he'd addressed the bullpen in Detroit...

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Posted 14 November 2015 - 01:36 AM

Mariners re-signed Franklin Gutierrez and Marco Estrada re-signed with the Blue Jays.

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:15 PM

Interesting in-division trade:

 

Texas trades OF Leonys Martin and RHRP Anthony Bass to Seattle for OF James Jones and RHRP Tom Wilhelmsen

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:31 PM

Shane Robinson signed a minor league deal with the Indians!


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Posted 20 November 2015 - 11:34 PM

My Braves made a minor deal, sending OF Cameron Maybin to Detroit for LHRP Ian Krol and LHP prospect Gabe Speier.

 

A former Brave and a former Twin were swapped for one another on Friday as the Athletics acquired Liam Hendricks from the Blue Jays for Jesse Chavez.

 

Oakland signed LHSP Rich Hill

 

Seattle traded OF Ramon Flores to Milwaukee for 2B Luis Sardinas

 

Houston traded SS Jon Villar to Milwaukee for P Cy Sneed

 

Angels signed IF Cliff Pennington

 

A ton of guys got DFA'd - notable among them: Danny Hultzen, Fernando Abad, Craig Gentry, AJ Griffin, Josh Rutledge, John Axford, Rex Brothers, Wilin Rosario, JP Arencibia, LJ Hoes, Allen Webster

 

and earlier, but not mentioned here yet, Arizona traded RHSP Jeremy Hellickson to Philadelphia for RHP prospect Sam McWilliams

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 01:05 AM

So the Braves are truly tearing it down, aren't they?At what point does Freeman start demanding a trade?This is ugly.

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 02:12 AM

 

So the Braves are truly tearing it down, aren't they?At what point does Freeman start demanding a trade?This is ugly.

 

Maybin really isn't a huge surprise. In all seriousness, Simmons is the biggest shocker of them all. I wouldn't have been surprised at all to see both Miller and Teheran go this offseason, but Simmons still doesn't make sense to me. The one redeeming thing is that all rumors coming through on both Miller and Teheran include not just bats, but bats that could play in Atlanta in 2016.

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 04:25 AM

Maybe the Twins should take a flyer on Wilkin Rosario if he clears waviers.Twins should have a decent shot at signing him as their is an opportunity here.


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Posted 21 November 2015 - 09:09 AM

 

Maybin really isn't a huge surprise. In all seriousness, Simmons is the biggest shocker of them all. I wouldn't have been surprised at all to see both Miller and Teheran go this offseason, but Simmons still doesn't make sense to me. The one redeeming thing is that all rumors coming through on both Miller and Teheran include not just bats, but bats that could play in Atlanta in 2016.

I guess I was including last offseason as well.They took a .500 ish team (with problems) and tore it down to the ground. 

Is 2016 2017 2018 the year that a good pitching prospect is truly blocked by 5 good pitchers in the starting rotation? 

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 05:50 PM

 

I guess I was including last offseason as well.They took a .500 ish team (with problems) and tore it down to the ground. 

 

The biggest issue was that the farm system was arguably bottom 5-7 in the game at the time and the Braves did not have the payroll to keep together the squad they had constructed. Heck, I'd wager the Twins have larger purse strings than the Braves at this point, likely until Liberty Media sells the team (which isn't rumored or anything, just a pipe dream at this point) or they get out of what was rated as one of the 3 worst TV deals among MLB teams.

 

They've done a tremendous job of rebuilding the farm, and before the Simmons deal, I really had trouble arguing with any deal they made. One of the biggest issues of this whole rebuild is the PR of it. Hart and Schuerholz sold it last off season as a retool, not a rebuild, discussing being ready for the opening of the new stadium in 2017 with a competitive team. Unless there's a sudden influx of cash and tremendous spending coming that no one is seeing right now, there's simply no way that is an accurate projection, and that has really upset a lot of the fanbase.

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#59 Mike Sixel

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 09:12 AM

It's ok to tear it down......but teams need to realize that MOST fans won't pay money to watch a AAAA team at MLB prices. And, teams need to be honest about it, and not get pissed when the fans get pissed. The response by the "leadership" in Atlanta is sad.

I remain hopeful on Buxton and Sano.....but I'd not bet the franchise on them.


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Posted 23 November 2015 - 09:26 AM

 

It's ok to tear it down......but teams need to realize that MOST fans won't pay money to watch a AAAA team at MLB prices. And, teams need to be honest about it, and not get pissed when the fans get pissed. The response by the "leadership" in Atlanta is sad.

 

That's the biggest issue. If they'd have been honest from the get-go, this isn't an issue at all. There are now some rumors with legs that the team could be sold to a private investor rather than corporate ownership, which could be a very good thing, but any fan with any amount of foresight at all saw that the limited payroll wasn't going to allow for keeping the 2013 team together much longer, so when the slump happened in 2014, it made sense to rebuild - just don't sell the fans on a re-tool and then tear it all apart.

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