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#1 Nick Nelson

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

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#2 SpiritofVodkaDave

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:48 PM

Nick, have you been drinking some of my Kool-Aid recently?

#3 gunnarthor

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:51 PM

6) No slumps by Plouffe, Mauer, Willingham etc AND Morneau has to start producing at an respectable level.

#4 Top Gun

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:06 PM

The SP will have to go 6 strongs Innings. Twins come out and win 10 in a row and then do it again later. Key pitching,good defense and timely hitter can do it.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 10:11 PM

7) Verlander pitches every game like he did tonight, the entire Indians squad gets a bad case of the flu for a month, the Royals lose their three best players for using PEDs, and the White Sox all have whiplash from a bus accident.

8) at least three Twins pitchers get bitten by the same radioactive spider that bit Plouffe.

#6 Land Of 10,000 Beasts

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:31 AM

7) Verlander pitches every game like he did tonight, the entire Indians squad gets a bad case of the flu for a month, the Royals lose their three best players for using PEDs, and the White Sox all have whiplash from a bus accident.

8) at least three Twins pitchers get bitten by the same radioactive spider that bit Plouffe.


I was gonna add a 9th but I just couldn't top that. That was brilliant sir.

#7 twinswon1991

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:21 AM

Nick needs to be introduced to reality! The Twins have been the WORST team in the AL since September 2010 and have shown no signs of improvement. I take it this is your first year following the club?

#8 IdahoPilgrim

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 05:34 AM

No injuries! So far this year we have been very lucky not to have a position player go down - and we're still 11 games back! Imagine if Mauer or Willingham or Span or Revere were down for 6 weeks.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:42 AM

as bad as the central is, they'd need their starters to suddenly look like good starters and for Morneau to hit like he did in May. Though that said, they should be selling.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:04 AM

and have shown no signs of improvement.


You must not have been watching this team for the last month or so. I would call an entire month playing above 500 ball a sign of improvement.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:14 AM

Nick needs to be introduced to reality! The Twins have been the WORST team in the AL since September 2010 and have shown no signs of improvement. I take it this is your first year following the club?


Good thing you heeded his suggestion of no "it isn't going to happen" responses.

#12 Boom Boom

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:59 AM

I was going to say "You're out of your gourd, Nick"... but that's been disallowed. So instead... remember that historically improbable run in 2006? The Twins could get right back in it with another one! All it'll take is to make the 2006 Twins look like the 2003 Tigers!

#13 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:25 AM

You must not have been watching this team for the last month or so. I would call an entire month playing above 500 ball a sign of improvement.


No, they're still terrible. Playing winning ball only means they're playing winning ball. That's not how you succeed in this league.

*head explodes*

#14 Badsmerf

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:34 AM

Playing winning ball only means they're playing winning ball. That's not how you succeed in this league.


That is a real paradox my friend... The word "improvement" means getting better. I would consider the last month as a positive for the Twins, and reason for optimism.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:35 AM

Playing winning ball only means they're playing winning ball. That's not how you succeed in this league.


I guess I need this clarified as to what your point is. I would have said that winning is the definition of success.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:36 AM

That is a real paradox my friend... The word "improvement" means getting better. I would consider the last month as a positive for the Twins, and reason for optimism.


You're getting a bad case of VD buddy. And not the usual kind.....

#17 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:41 AM

That is a real paradox my friend... The word "improvement" means getting better. I would consider the last month as a positive for the Twins, and reason for optimism.


Well, it's pretty obvious that the team is improving. These are the cost-controlled guys that have been driving the team for the past 4-6 weeks:

Mauer
Plouffe
Diamond
Perkins
Burton
Revere
Willingham
Span
Burnett
Doumit
Duensing

All of those guys are locked up through 2014, if I'm not mistaken. That's half the 25 man roster.

This team is far from "good" but it's obvious that they have something brewing that could form into a decent team with the right acquisitions. No one of importance outside of Liriano is going to be lost after this season. That's one guy. One guy. Everybody else has been ineffective or injured.

Two starting pitchers (one for Span, one FA) with Gibson returning to form and this team is suddenly an AL contender. It's a bit of a stretch to expect everything to slot in perfectly but after the past two seasons being decimated by injury, it's about damned time the Twins got a break.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:42 AM

You must not have been watching this team for the last month or so. I would call an entire month playing above 500 ball a sign of improvement.


You lowballed your own point...it's been two months. Man that first month+ hurts more every day!

Agree with the previously made point: I think one of the bigger requirements is Morneau improving even half-way from where he's been to where he "should" be.

#19 savvyspy

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:46 AM

Tommorow Nick is going to lay out how to get struck by lightning at the exact time you sank your 2nd hole in one of the round. And tune in Friday for a breakdown of which Victoria's Secret model is going to ask me to marry them!!

#20 TheLeviathan

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 08:51 AM

Two starting pitchers (one for Span, one FA) with Gibson returning to form and this team is suddenly an AL contender. It's a bit of a stretch to expect everything to slot in perfectly but after the past two seasons being decimated by injury, it's about damned time the Twins got a break.


Well if we address one of the starter spots with trading Span than it takes him off the team control list. Nit-picky but worth noting that we would have a corner outfield spot to fill. But, to be honest, I'd much rather see us shop Willingham than Span. If you can get a similar package for Hammer as Span, it would make much more long-term sense for the team. And at this pace, I think Hammer's value is about as high as it will ever be at the end of this month.

These next few months are going to tell a lot about what hopes we can have going forward.