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Game 61 - Twins vs Phillies - 6/13/12

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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:58 PM

Twins Lineup: Denard Span CF Ben Revere RF Joe Mauer C Josh Willingham LF Justin Morneau 1B Ryan Doumit DH Trevor Plouffe 3B Brian Dozier SS Jamey Carroll 2B SP: PJ Walters Phillies Lineup: Jimmy Rollins SS Juan Pierre LF Hunter Pence RF Jim Thome DH Shane Victorino CF Carlos Ruiz C Placido Polanco 3B John Mayberry 1B Some Guy Martinez 2B SP: Cole Hamels P

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:34 PM

Hey, I recognize that lineup! Wonder how often they've gone even two-straight games with identical fielding and batting order over the last...long while.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:55 PM

I predict at least one team won't score as many runs tonight as last night....very brave prediction, I know.
Lighten up Francis....

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:30 PM

It's about time Parmelee and Casilla got some at bats. Dozier has just been terrible, so it wouldn't hurt to give Casilla a few starts and have Carroll move to SS. I wish they'd DH Parmelee instead of Doumit in some games.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:56 PM

Agree with parm DHing every now and then, but against a lefty is not the time

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:20 PM

Hey, I recognize that lineup! Wonder how often they've gone even two-straight games with identical fielding and batting order over the last...long while.

Here's a fun tool for answering that question (and any other question you might have about this year's lineup trends): http://www.baseball-...ng-orders.shtml

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:15 PM

Nice start. Bases loaded Thome up.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:18 PM

Hmmm Manship up already.....

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:19 PM

Thome singles to shallow right, two runs score. I assume no throw to the plate was attempted by Revere.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:19 PM

Maybe Walters is injured?

#11 SwainZag

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:20 PM

Thome beat Revere's throw to 2nd

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:21 PM

Maybe Walters is injured?


That would be my guess - they had Manship up pretty quickly, as if they'd told him ahead of time to be ready. They must have seen something during pregame warmup that had them concerned.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:21 PM

Maybe Walters is injured?


Trainer came out, Walter's coming out. Weird he wasn't scratched from the beginning, he hasn't thrown that many pitches. They had to have been monitoring him.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:21 PM

Thome beat Revere's throw to 2nd


That would be epic.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:22 PM

Is Walters injured or just having a horrible day?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:26 PM

3rd bloop hit......not a good start.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:28 PM

Is Walters injured or just having a horrible day?


He's got to be injured or ill. You wouldn't pull him in the first inning even if he did give up a few runs unless that was the case.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:28 PM

That would be epic.


I've got the video of his triple he hit while a Twin - I still watch it; it's a classic.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:30 PM

I've got the video of his triple he hit while a Twin - I still watch it; it's a classic.


Was the medical staff alerted to wheel out the oxygen bottle to meet him at third, for when he eventually arrived?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:31 PM

6 runs in the first inning. WTF?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:32 PM

Yuck - this might be a long game for the Twins.

#22 SwainZag

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:33 PM

Spotting Hamels 6 runs is about close to get to automatic as you can get.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:33 PM

A couple of thoughts: Walters looks to be not himself since pitch number 1. Something is wrong. Not to take yourself out of the game and staying and pitching BP and killing your team is inexcusable. (Pavano did the same thing too). Hope this is the last day of him in a Twins' uniform. Jefferson Manship. I know there are a lot of fans here (Boras client and all), but the Twins can do better and there are more deserving arms in the minors. Tonight really sucks so far
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:38 PM

It may not have been Walters call - if it was a last minute thing that came up pregame, they might have decided to try it and see if it would be OK. The fact that Gardy came out so quickly tells me he probably had heads up there was a potential problem. The option is to throw Manship out there for an emergency start anyway, so you haven't lost that much (other than the 6-run first inning, of course.)

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:39 PM

Yuck - this might be a long game for the Twins.


Let's at least hope that Plouffe stays hot.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

It may not have been Walters call - if it was a last minute thing that came up pregame, they might have decided to try it and see if it would be OK. The option is to throw Manship out there for an emergency start anyway, so you haven't lost that much (other than the 6-run first inning, of course.)


If it was not Walters' call, the one who made that call while he was throwing mid 80s FB in the pen (because that's was he was throwing in the game) should be run out of town tonight big time.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:41 PM

It may not have been Walters call - if it was a last minute thing that came up pregame, they might have decided to try it and see if it would be OK. The fact that Gardy came out so quickly tells me he probably had heads up there was a potential problem. The option is to throw Manship out there for an emergency start anyway, so you haven't lost that much (other than the 6-run first inning, of course.)


I continue to wonder if the training staff is up to the job.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:44 PM

Word just came on the telecast. Walters had right shoulder stiffness, and couldn't get loose during the warmup. He'll have an MRI tomorrow.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:44 PM

Jim Thome his improved his average from .214 to .289 in ten innings so far against the Twins.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 06:46 PM

And yet they sent him out there. This team boggles the mind at times, really.
Lighten up Francis....