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#1 biggentleben

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 01:20 PM

First "big" trade of the offseason went down today with Adam Lind moving from the Blue Jays to the Brewers for Marco Estrada in a move that gives the Blue Jays more pitching and saves them roughly $3M.

 

MLB Trade Rumors also put up their predictions on the big free agents this year.  You can check it out here: http://www.mlbtrader...redictions.html

 

BTW, if you haven't found it yet, MLB Trade Rumors started a new podcast, and I've found it to be an excellent news source thus far.  Check it out on iTunes or your podcast provider!

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#2 Kirby_waved_at_me

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 08:19 AM

That was a good move for both teams, I think. Adam LaRoche would probably have been more expensive than Lind was, Toronto gets a little wiggle room to sign a player or two and added a pitcher. Toronto also added the OF J.B. Shuck on waivers - he's probably a 4th outfielder, realistically, but he's an upgrade over Mastro and Kenny Wilson.


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 10:27 AM

Lind fits my stereotype of The Brewers Player: big, slow, a liability on defense.They think they're still in the AL and "if nothing else, we can DH him".

A slim chance equals a fat chance, yet a wise man and a wise guy are opposites.


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Posted 04 November 2014 - 10:47 AM

True - and for both teams' sake one would hope that they aren't done adding talent. Lind is actually best suited as a platoon with a guy that can hit lefties, but he's an upgrade over the Brewers 1B of the last few years regardless.


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Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:07 AM

Cuddyer signed with the Mets

 

V-Mart re-signed with the Tigers

 

Fransisco Cervelli was traded to the Pirates (insurance in case Russell Martin goes elsewhere?)

 

The Tigers also traded prospect Devon Travis to get Anthony Gose, the guy that was a super prospect for several years 2010-2012 but has yet to reach his potential. He's going to play CF for Detroit ...

 

What will the next big move? Which big name Free Agent will be the next to sign? Nelson Cruz? Hanley? Pablo Sandoval?   


#6 biggentleben

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 05:22 PM

Deolis Guerra signed with Pittsburgh.  He shall now become a lights-out reliever or deliver 15-20 starts of amazing performance, as does every former Twin in Pittsburgh.

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 06:37 PM

OK - I suggest that everyone post their smart alec former Twins pitchers that star in Pittsburgh comment within the next 24 hours so we can just move on and not experience those clever rejoinders for the rest of the off-season.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 07:53 PM

Stanton

Martin

Cuddyer

Vmart

 

We continue to see data points that teams have a ton of money to spend this offseason.It will be interesting to see if this trend continues through the entire offseason.

Is 2016 2017 2018 the year that a good pitching prospect is truly blocked by 5 good pitchers in the starting rotation? 

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#9 Kirby_waved_at_me

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Posted 19 November 2014 - 09:08 AM

Is $10MM a year for Billy Butler an overpay?

 

I think it's probably about right for a free agent acquisition. Not sure that Butler will live up to that number, but who knows?


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:09 AM

Not much of an overpay but I'm not a fan of him.Can't field, can't run and doesn't hit for much power.

Is 2016 2017 2018 the year that a good pitching prospect is truly blocked by 5 good pitchers in the starting rotation? 

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#11 Kirby_waved_at_me

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 07:41 AM

Red Sox apparently are going to sign Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez, and in theory they are still in on Jon Lester... That's a lot of $$ invested in three players...


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Posted 24 November 2014 - 10:41 PM

Red Sox apparently are going to sign Sandoval and Hanley Ramirez, and in theory they are still in on Jon Lester... That's a lot of $$ invested in three players...


My bet is they sign one of Lester/Shields, then trade for Hamels.

I wonder what it's like to be a fan of a team that dreams big.

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Posted 24 November 2014 - 11:15 PM

Difference in TV contracts.It makes a big difference.Means Red Sox will have to trade an outfielder.Hope the mid and small market teams make them pay by having to take the player for little or forcing them to eat a great deal of money.


#14 The Wise One

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 05:25 AM

357 million in revenue vs 221 million. I would think Boston could have a few more 20 million a year contracts than the Twins


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 06:14 AM

I think the difference is about more than just money.

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 07:44 AM

I think the difference is about more than just money.

I do too, but the money is what makes it happen.  Certainly in my own life it is clear that having money is a necessary but not sufficient condition to spending money.  Would I spend it?  I don't know, but I'd like to have an extra $150 million a year as an experiment to see what I would do.  It would be interesting.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 11:31 AM

I think the difference is about more than just money.

 

I get what you're saying Chief and I agree that even if you handed the Twins a 360M pot of revenue you still wouldn't see it spent like this...but all that said, that's a huge advantage to have.  One the Twins would be out of their minds to try and match at 60% of the revenue the Red Sox make.

 

It's why I'm so irked by the way baseball handles revenues and the wild imbalances it can cause.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 12:06 PM

Let the Red Sox blow their payroll.They can spend big, but it's not unlimited and they still only get 25 roster spots, just like everyone else.

 

I thought they learned their lesson four years ago and that's why they got rid of all their albatross contracts and started a bit of a youth movement.Rameriz is already on his retirement march and does anyone really think that a 300 lb 3B is going to last very long?He's a good hitter, but he's not an elite hitter, it's almost like paying a fat guy top money was such a fun idea that team's were willing to overpay just for the novelty of it. 

 

Ha, I hope they do sign Lester or Shields or better yet both!Those guys have way more innings on their arms than the normal pitcher in his early 30's.They may be 30 and 32 respectively but their arms are about 35 and 37. 

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Posted 25 November 2014 - 12:40 PM

They'll find a way to deal Napoli and Cespedes, and maybe another player. I'd guess the payroll is barely up right now.

 

And, if they have the money, what else should they do with it? I do think they overpaid for both, and I don't love either signing.....but the alternative is to pocket the money. Rather than wait for all their youth to pan out, they are going to sign guys they think are MLB players with the giant piles of money they have at their disposal.

One of the best opening day rosters in years. Now go get 'em.


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Posted 25 November 2014 - 01:08 PM

Its more than the money, its decline phase players.Everyone has a payroll limit - Boston's just a lot bigger than ours and it will end up paying for players that are no good at some point.Perhaps they think they can snooker the Dodgers into cleaning up their mess again in a couple years....

 

That's the odd thing about free agency - you pay the most for them just after they've had their best years.