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Terry Ryan scheduled to see Alex Meyer pitch for the first time next Monday

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#91 jokin

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 07:55 PM

Kind of a ridiculous claim. All this discussion was done behind the scenes, and before the game. Pretty sure during the game, Mr. Ryan will be watching Meyer (and other Wings pitchers).  He can't make a trip to Rochester for ONE reason. That's just silly.

 

Of course  the negotiations were done before the game.  No one has implied differently.  But the press conference apparently happened after the on-field announcement upon completion of the first inning.  So you're apparently just wrong about at least the 2nd inning.  (Apology accepted in advance.)  ;)

 

Note the picture on the Frontier Stadium scoreboard taken of the ceremony right after the first innings was completed,,, presumably followed by the press conference:   https://twitter.com/ezenilm1

 

To repeat, from RedWings official Twitter account:

 

 

#MNTwins GM Terry Ryan meets with the Rochester media following tonight's announcement.

Edited by jokin, 25 August 2014 - 08:10 PM.


#92 jokin

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:00 PM

FWIW and as an aside, presuming Ryan saw AJ Achter throw tonight, he saw a guy who made a strong case for consideration for promotion.  In earning the 3 inning save of the 4-2 Rochester victory, Achter had a line of 0 ER, 3 K 0 BB 1 hit, and lowered his season ERA to 2.51.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:15 PM

Interesting that Meyer was allowed to pitch 105 pitches while Ryan was there.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:50 PM

Actually, I'd prefer that the Twins get the Vegas franchise, make Moe Green an offer he can't refuse, and move the AAA club to the Midwest in closer proximity to the Twins Cities.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 09:08 PM

Cheaper Non Stop Flights for sure and don't forget Carrot Top.

 

After booking the cheap non-stop junket to Vegas....  here's a conversation I'd like to see this week instead of the deal with Rochester....

TR:  "The Pohlad Family wants to buy you out."

Moe Green, the Las Vegas 51s owner:  "You think I'm skimming, TR?  You buy me out?  No I buy you out!...  The rumor's out, you don't have that kind of multi-tasking muscle to throw around anymore..... I talked to Colletti...  I can make a deal with the Dodgers, and keep the Team!"

 

TR:  "I didn't say you were skimming, Moe, just unlucky.... but more importantly, you slapped Carrot Top around one time too many....and Godfather Jim has always had a thing about Carrot Top getting his hair mussed- he deserves Respect!  I leave for New Britain, ostensibly to scout Reynaldo Rodriguez and Corey Wemberly [wink-wink], but really to [wink-wink] open up a casino there with Carrot Top as the headliner and officially sign off on the Family's move to Hartford tomorrow, at the end of the first inning...

 

think about a price, Moe..."

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Posted 25 August 2014 - 09:30 PM

Interesting that Meyer was allowed to pitch 105 pitches while Ryan was there.

He was probably too busy evaluating hotdog vendors (or some such) because god knows TR would have gone out to the mound himself to pull Meyer after his third walk.

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 05:41 AM

h

It sounds like a bigger priority for Terry Ryan than watching Alex Meyer pitch this evening is in finalizing an extension agreement with the Red Wings:

 

 

Priorities.  Uggh.

 

http://www.democrata...ation/14577249/

 

Ryan's title is GM, not director of player development.  That means he handles stuff like this, and he's also in charge of the player development folks... and he's in charge of the manager... and for that matter, he is in charge of all baseball operations.  I suspect his plan for the Rochester trip was to handle both. 


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 07:26 AM

I always think this late-August trip for the GM is as close a simulation to a double-deck stadium that these kids will ever face. If you wilt when the GM, a man who is rooting for you, is in the stands, how much more trouble will you have with the Fenway rowdies? That is not to say that players who struggle will not be (or do not deserve to be) promoted, but it allows you to put realistic expectations on their future performance.


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 09:06 AM

Actually, I'd prefer that the Twins get the Vegas franchise, make Moe Green an offer he can't refuse, and move the AAA club to the Midwest in closer proximity to the Twins Cities.

 

Shouldn't the Twins want to stay out of the PCL, I thought Vegas was among the worst stadiums, complete bandbox.

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 09:55 AM

Shouldn't the Twins want to stay out of the PCL, I thought Vegas was among the worst stadiums, complete bandbox.

 

Every team in baseball wants to stay out of Las Vegas. Heat. No indoor cage or other workout area. Heat. Balls fly out of the park to such a degree that stats are totally meaningless. And then there's the heat.

 

Vegas has relatively new ownership with hopes of funding a new ballpark, but those hopes are not coming to fruition very quickly.

 

The Twins rightfully did not want to move to the PCL at all, I'm sure, and the last place on earth they would voluntarily go is Vegas. Vegas always gets the last MLB affiliation standing when all the other AAA teams get an affiliate.

 

All of that said, I would imagine Ryan's trip to Rochester was primarily to see Meyer and the two organizations took advantage of the timing to do their announcement. Any Twins FO person could stand out on the field and do a ceremony and talk to local media for 10 minutes. In CR, it was Brad Steil, who combined his planned trip to CR in early August with a meeting with the Kernels BOD and signing ceremony. The affiliation thing didn't keep Steil from watching a lot of baseball (and, upon his departure, making some roster moves, as well).

 

As GM, Ryan's much more concerned with who he might want to get to Minnesota in September. I doubt it's a coincidence that his trip to Rochester was scheduled for near the end of August.

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Posted 26 August 2014 - 11:56 AM

Shouldn't the Twins want to stay out of the PCL, I thought Vegas was among the worst stadiums, complete bandbox.

Selfishly, I'd love to see the Twins AAA affiliate come to Vegas but not if it's to play at Cashman Field.  It's a dump, and it's in a terrible location.

 

Periodically, talk comes up about building a new stadium for someone's AAA team but it never comes to fruition.  It's the Mets now and I remember the Blue Jays a few years ago threatening to leave if they didn't build a new stadium.  Bye bye...

 

On a side note, I could hardly believe my eyes when I saw Bobby Abreu heading out to RF Saturday night (I had a friend in from out of town that wanted to go to a game for some reason, only my second AAA game at Cashman in 10 years).  Bobby frickin' Abreu.  WTF....


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 12:10 PM

Ryan's title is GM, not director of player development.  That means he handles stuff like this, and he's also in charge of the player development folks... and he's in charge of the manager... and for that matter, he is in charge of all baseball operations.  I suspect his plan for the Rochester trip was to handle both. 

 

 

Yes.  All true.  And no one has said different.  If we return to the original story from Mike Berardino, in his conversation with Terry Ryan, Ryan chose only to disclose to the reporter of the "player development" GM role of his upcoming activities on his trip to Rochester.  To reiterate, here was Ryan's original quote:

 

 

“I’m going to see him (pitch next Monday in Rochester). I’m going to see the whole club, of course, but I’ll see him for the first time (at that level). It’s important that when you bring a guy up they’re prepared to pitch at this level. So we’ll see how prepared he looks.”

 

 

Given the original article and what Ryan said, not what he didn't say, signing off on Alex Meyer and his next step in 2014, one way or another, appeared to be a main priority for this trip.  As Seth previously stated, a new deal with Rochester had probably been in the works for a while now.  Apparently, none of the beat writers or other media outlets like Twins Daily, were made privy to this new deal, which was only made public a few hours before last night's game in Rochester.  So, it appears that Ryan, at the time he gave the quote to Berardino, hadn't quite closed the deal definitively enough to make a comment, and that negotiations were still pending to finalize the agreement.

 

My comments were related specifically to how the whole thing went down.  Apparently, the local ownership wanted an official, game-delaying, on-field ceremony (immediately following the 1st inning)- which was certainly their prerogative- followed by a press conference away from the field while the game proceeded.  So yes, Ryan had to have both of his hats on, and in the process, missed quite of bit of Meyer's performance.

 

At this point, we're all left only wondering if Ryan has made an informed-enough decision on whether or not Meyer passed the "prepared to pitch at this level" test, or not.


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Posted 26 August 2014 - 12:33 PM

Here was Ryan's quote, earlier in the article, on "The Meyer Plan" for this season:

 

He’s right where he belongs.

 

We had a plan with him and it’s worked as far as keeping him active. We got him out of there at a particular time in a game, which in a normal setting you don’t like to do that.

 

You’d like to see him pitch through some of those innings.

 

We’ve taken him out for a reason so he can get through the year. He should be fine to go.”

 

Given that Gene Glynn kept Meyer in before, and then during, the 6th inning, when in every previous game he would have been removed after reaching 90 pitches, let alone 100 throws, it's a good bet that it was a prime showcase opportunity for Meyer in front of the "Player Development GM"..  We'll find out soon enough if he passed the Ryan test for preparedness or not, the comment, "he should be fine to go", at this point, is pretty open-ended and can really mean almost anything.  But, hopefully not "fine to go" as in July 2015 or something similar.

Edited by jokin, 26 August 2014 - 12:35 PM.