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#1 Paul Pleiss

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 01:46 AM

It's time to begin the discussion...

 

Who would you like to see take over managerial duties for the Twins?

 

Paul Molitor? Gene Glynn?

 

Someone from outside the organization completely?

 

Former Twins player? Dan Gladden (kidding)?

 

If Gardy can keep this team from completely tanking into August/September, something he hasn't been able to do the last 3 seasons, maybe he has an outside chance at finishing the 2nd year of his 2 year deal, but I think he's gone after this season (and with him my arch-nemesis, Rick Anderson - good riddance!).

 

Who's next for the Twins?

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:46 AM

I'd be fine with Molitor or Glynn.That said, I doubt it happens this offseason.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 05:34 AM

What about Don Baylor who is currently the hitting coach for the Angels and was a member of the 87 WS team?

 

I don't know. But Ronald "Clyde" Gardenhire needs to go.

 

Hell, I'd even vote for Drew Butera to be a player coach for this team.

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#4 The Wise One

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:18 AM

Gardenhire will go when Ryan determines he can no longer do the job. Considering the attrition of healthy bodies in the pitching rotation the last few seasons, I really doubt Gardenhire's September record recently means too much for a job evaluation.
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:36 AM

Whether or not he needs to go isn't the question. It's whether or not he will. As long as Ryan is here, Gardy will be unless Gardy himself decides to go. As for who is next in line depends on who makes that decision. If Ryan is still the GM it'll be someone internal.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:15 AM

I'm not typically on the "Fire Gardy" wagon, but even I've reached the point where I think he'll be gone (and needs to be gone). Not so much because this losing is his fault - but just because the team could use a new leader.

 

I'd vote for Molitor or Glynn - I think either could be a nice "new voice" (as new as we can ask for, anyway)for the organization.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:19 AM

What about Don Baylor who is currently the hitting coach for the Angels and was a member of the 87 WS team?

 

I don't know. But Ronald "Clyde" Gardenhire needs to go.

 

Hell, I'd even vote for Drew Butera to be a player coach for this team.

 

As much as I like Molitor, I'd also like the Twins to go outside the organization just to prove they are willing to get away from the scholarship program.While Baylor was a former Twins (breifly) he's certainly not an organizational guy.Still, I think his time passed. 

 

However, Chili Davis' stock seems to be on the rise. 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:28 AM

I'm starting to doubt that the Twins will ever change managers but if they do I'm sure they will go in house which I feel is a mistake. While I don't think Molitor would be a bad choice this franchise needs some fresh blood. I have been saying it for years but my vote would be Mike Maddux. Big fan.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:29 AM

I would be curious to see if Doug Mientkiewicz would get a look considering his success at Ft. Myers.  Granted, it's Class A, but maybe he's at least earned a shot on the coaching staff.  

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:31 AM

I'm not typically on the "Fire Gardy" wagon, but even I've reached the point where I think he'll be gone (and needs to be gone). Not so much because this losing is his fault - but just because the team could use a new leader.
 
I'd vote for Molitor or Glynn - I think either could be a nice "new voice" (as new as we can ask for, anyway)for the organization.


The problem as I see it was that last year was the year to do it. His contract was up. He signed a 2 year deal, so I think he's here till next season. Typically, they start looking at extensions a year out, so this could be another situation like last season where Gardy enters 2015 a lame duck. I agree that he needs to go. I think its time. I just don't think it happens this offseason.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:33 AM

Here's a scenario that keeps Gardenhire with the Twins next season. Next year is also the last year of Mike Redmond's current contract in Miami. If Miami decides that he's not the right fit there he would become available and be an interesting option.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:49 AM

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:51 AM

I'd like to see a younger voice in the clubhouse. I would be fine with Dougie Baseball or Redmond

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:52 AM

I'd be stunned if Ryan fired Gardy.My belief is that eventually Dougie Baseball replaces Gardy but it's a few years down the line.I also think keeping Gardy is a good thing. 

 

And I suspect this thread blows up.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:54 AM

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:54 AM

I'd be stunned if Ryan fired Gardy.

I would be too but I believe the Jays and Red Sox will both be looking to hire new managers (others?). If one of them gave Gardy a call, maybe he and the Twins would agree to part ways (or make a trade - as the Sox acquired Farrell)? I could see it happening.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:57 AM

I'd be stunned if Ryan fired Gardy.My belief is that eventually Dougie Baseball replaces Gardy but it's a few years down the line.I also think keeping Gardy is a good thing. 

 

And I suspect this thread blows up.

 

My preference would be Ronnie is let go.His record has been terrible, most of that is not his fault. I am not a huge believer in motivational speakers inspiring guys to play better.His roster has been terrible, starting pitching has been in the 27-30 range the last 3-4 years.So you can't really expect a better outcome.

 

Having said that, I really don't like the way Ron handles young players.He constantly plays guys, young guys even out of position (Pinto at DH, Santana at CF) and he also ridicules them in the press.For those reasons alone I don't think he is the right guy for the job given the level of talent we are going to bring up in the next 1-2 years.

 

My preference would be Paul Molitor, but my only real request would be a better partnership between the GM and coach and they get on the same page as far as developing players.Given where the Twins are right now, the coach should be playing for next year more so than this year.Gardy does not seem to think past today.

 

For what it is worth, I think Ron is the manager next year.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:59 AM

I would be too but I believe the Jays and Red Sox will both be looking to hire new managers (others?). If one of them gave Gardy a call, maybe he and the Twins would agree to part ways (or make a trade - as the Sox acquired Farrell)? I could see it happening.

 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:28 AM

They need to hire the best manager available. If that guy happens to be in the organization right now, then go that direction.

Will other teams be going after Molitor or Mientkiewicz or Glynn? If so, the Twins better hire one of them quick. If not, then why should the Twins be pursuing them?

Staying in house will probably make an easier transition. Once the transition is over, they better have the best manager in place. I am not confident that guy is in the organization right now. I will take the rockier transition for the better manager.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 08:34 AM

 

 

Having said that, I really don't like the way Ron handles young players.He constantly plays guys, young guys even out of position (Pinto at DH, Santana at CF) and he also ridicules them in the press.For those reasons alone I don't think he is the right guy for the job given the level of talent we are going to bring up in the next 1-2 years.

 

 

Yeah, the Gardy is mean to youngsters thing is such BS.  What exactly has Gardy done in the press?  He was somewhat critical of Hicks although a the complete reading of the article his comments were pretty tame and that's the only "mean" thing I can think of.  He routinely praises young guys (Hicks included), including guys not up here yet.  Most of Gardy's teams were incredibly young.  

 

The Nats manager pulled Bryce Harper for not running out a grounder to the pitcher, Gardy hasn't done that.  Joe Maddon told the press that Wil Myers had to work on his defense and needed to focus on baseball all the time and not give away at bats.  The Mets manager said something similar about Wheeler and was accused of throwing him under the bus by the media.  Ron Washington made a pitcher give him the ball "the right way" when he pulled him from a game.  Boston is playing super rookies Betts and Bogaerts out of position after placing a mediocre vet in front of Bogaerts.