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#21 twinswon1991

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:48 PM

I would like that. The only problem would be how the Twins would make him pitch to contact and quit trying to blow hitters away with gas.


I agree 100%. I like Giolito followed by Buxton and Correa. My main concern about Giolito would be the Twins ruining him by going pitch to contact. I feel Buxton and Correa are far superior to the college pitchers. The Twins should use their next 4-5 picks on starters and hope that they get 1 MLB #3 starter out of the group.

This organization needs better coaching or it doesn't matter who they take, they will continue to run off good talent like Hardy, Dickey, Humber, Ortiz, Jones, on, on, on if they do not conform to pitch to contact or PuntoBall.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 08:55 PM

You'd listen to Otero but you can't handicap Buxton cuz he's in the Powell region. With this high of a pick... Serious cross checking has to be happening. Powell may be the better snake oil salesman but here's to hoping that the Twins have more then Powell's ratings and advocacy.


I agree with you completely. I would hope that everybody that ranks higher than "area scout" has seen both of these guys (and everyone else being seriously considered) multiple times. I've read people say, "we can't take Buxton, he could turn out worse than Hicks", "we can't take (insert college pitcher), look at Gibson and Wimmers." The reality is that DJ's job could be riding on this one...

Great post though. I was not thinking about that angle. I'm gonna put you down on my smart poster list. You got me thinking now.


Thanks. I hope I can stay there!

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:18 PM

It is a futile endeavor to try to compare Buxton to Hicks. Buxton has significantly more upside and a better skill set then Hicks did coming out of HS. I understand how everyone wants to find some Ace pitcher ASAP because the Twins currently lack in SP, but in the draft you always draft for talent this high and not for need, especially since the majority of these players won't even be big parts of your major league club for 3+ years. Heck even our minor league OF depth has taken a big hit this year, the only top OF prospect pulling his weight is Arcia. Hicks/Benson/Morales etc all have looked less than stellar (and thats being nice!) None of the arms this year jump out as anything close to the Bauer types we saw last year, the Twins will have plenty of chances to draft arms with all there comp picks and high 2nd round pick. At this point you gotta go with Buxton IMO, and we should feel lucky as most people view him as the overall top talent in the draft.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 09:49 PM

My main concern about Giolito would be the Twins ruining him by going pitch to contact. .

Are you joking? Please tell me you're joking! If not, please give me one example of a flame throwing strike out pitcher who the Twins converted into a pitch to contact pitcher. Just one! The Twins have too many pitch to contact guys, this cannot be denied. but the idea that they take power strike out pitchers and TURN THEM into contact pitchers in proposterous. So just stop with this crap PLEASE!

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:08 PM

I hope to God the Twins don't draft a pitcher because they "need" pitching! Take the best player available especially at #2! Does it matter if they take a college pitcher? Even if they are really good, it's still probably at least two years before they see the majors and by then the Twins will be a different team. Odds are they will still need some pitching but that will also mean they've seen two more years of all the current prospects and some of them could be ready for the Majors by then. Is it harder to adjust a pitcher's mechanics if he's been pitching for 3-4 more years, a college pitcher compared to a high school pitcher? Can the Twins do more with them if they get them when they are younger? Do we want the Twins to make a pitcher into a Twins pitcher or is the only way to get a power pitcher to draft them? I'd rather they pick Buxton or Correa.



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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:13 PM

Do we want the Twins to make a pitcher into a Twins pitcher or is the only way to get a power pitcher to draft them?


Maybe I should've said "Do we think the Twins can change a pitcher?"

I think the Twins just want them to throw strikes! The whole "pitch to contact" concept has been blown out of proportion. THROW STRIKES! Get ahead in the count! If you do, then go for the strikeout but don't be afraid of throwing in the zone! How can any pitcher not already know that?



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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:24 PM

Why not the catcher, Zunino? We will need help at that position soon, and if none of these pitchers jump out, then why waste a number 2 pick?

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:42 PM

None of the arms this year jump out as anything close to the Bauer types we saw last year, the Twins will have plenty of chances to draft arms with all there comp picks and high 2nd round pick. At this point you gotta go with Buxton IMO, and we should feel lucky as most people view him as the overall top talent in the draft.


Kevin Goldstein was asked where he would rank a healthy Lucas Giolito in last years draft and he said "Top 5, and that's probably light". I am really starting to wish that the Twins would take a chance on him but I am fine with whatever they do.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 10:53 PM

Why not the catcher, Zunino? We will need help at that position soon, and if none of these pitchers jump out, then why waste a number 2 pick?


The reason being many people feel Correa and Buxton have more potential than Zunino. I'm not sure that the Twins feel that way, but I'm guessing they do since Zunino's name hasn't been mentioned much lately and has slid the past few weeks. One of the concerns with Zunino is last year and now this year his hitting has slid toward the end of the season. That may be a flag.

But who knows? Any of the 8 or so players we all have mentioned could turn out to be the best player this draft. Many of these decisions are almost splitting hairs and personal preference. There is some luck to it, no doubt.

I hope the Twins get lucky :)

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:08 PM

The reason being many people feel Correa and Buxton have more potential than Zunino. I'm not sure that the Twins feel that way, but I'm guessing they do since Zunino's name hasn't been mentioned much lately and has slid the past few weeks. One of the concerns with Zunino is last year and now this year his hitting has slid toward the end of the season. That may be a flag.

But who knows? Any of the 8 or so players we all have mentioned could turn out to be the best player this draft. Many of these decisions are almost splitting hairs and personal preference. There is some luck to it, no doubt.

I hope the Twins get lucky :)


Zunio is a nice talent no doubt, but it is clear there are about 4-5 superior options at #2 instead of him. The only reasonable reason they could take him at #2 is the ability to sign him below slot, however I don't think the #2 pick is the place to get cute, especially when you have a talent like Buxton available.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:14 PM

It is a futile endeavor to try to compare Buxton to Hicks. Buxton has significantly more upside and a better skill set then Hicks did coming out of HS.

I understand how everyone wants to find some Ace pitcher ASAP because the Twins currently lack in SP, but in the draft you always draft for talent this high and not for need, especially since the majority of these players won't even be big parts of your major league club for 3+ years. Heck even our minor league OF depth has taken a big hit this year, the only top OF prospect pulling his weight is Arcia. Hicks/Benson/Morales etc all have looked less than stellar (and thats being nice!)

None of the arms this year jump out as anything close to the Bauer types we saw last year, the Twins will have plenty of chances to draft arms with all there comp picks and high 2nd round pick. At this point you gotta go with Buxton IMO, and we should feel lucky as most people view him as the overall top talent in the draft.


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Edited by Riverbrian, 03 June 2012 - 11:18 PM.


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Posted 03 June 2012 - 11:43 PM

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To make a long story shorter... I went back to my room 45 minutes later with 30 bucks in my hand. Although the escort named samantha that i hung around with was very nice and she felt sorry for me.

The next day i had enough of the gambling thing and decided to sightsee. I didn't want to see no damn dam. So i got in the car and drove a ways to check out death valley arriving around noon with 30 bucks in hand.

To make a long story shorter... I took a wrong turn and my car overheated. I had driven past a ranger station 4 or 5 miles back and decided to walk back that direction.

To make a long story shorter... There were animal skulls and mesquite everywhere and you have to understand that the creosote bush starts to look the same after awhile and i got turned around and headed the wrong direction. It must have been around 3pm when i collapsed. My skin was blistering, i was crawling toward mirages, my breathing was getting shallower and my mouth was so dry that my tongue was stuck to the roof of my mouth. I had to pry it loose with my fingers. My thirst was so great that i stuck my face into the sand and tried to drink it.

To make a long story shorter... I could feel myself drifting in and out of consciousness. Just when i thought my end had come. Some guy named gary from lone pine california pulled up on a dirt bike. It was actually a regular bike but after riding through the desert... It got dirty and became a dirt bike. Gary asked if he could lend a hand and i begged him for water. He whipped out a cantine and said 15 bucks and it's yours. As i reached for the money. Gary went on to show me something else. Authentic passes good for 72 holes of golf at augusta national and he was charging 30 dollars for them.

To make a long story shorter... I'm no fool. I gave him 30 bucks and off gary went. As i laid there drinking more sand, i stared at those passes, someday i would meet the challenge of amen corner.


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