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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:08 PM

The following was a tweet from Jon Morosi in the last five minutes:

Source: #Twins to designate Jason Marquis for assignment. Has 8.47 ERA in Minnesota but good track record in National League. Only 33.



Let the speculation begin:

I'd project that Cole DeVries will take Marquis's 40 man roster spot and his spot in the starting rotation.
Could be Liam Hendriks as well.
Could be Anthony Swarzak to start with Anthony Slama taking Marquis's 40 man spot and a bullpen spot.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:12 PM

I think they move Duensing to start, call up Slama.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:16 PM

Duensing hasn't even begun to stretch out into starting capacity and it would be asinine to convert him back to a starter. I don't like Swarzak much, but I would take that route if it meant Slama would be FINALLY promoted.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:20 PM

Good move. With how he is pitching now, I can't see another team claiming him. There is the random chance that he could figure his stuff out in Rochester, and he'd still be in the system if he's needed. And, open up another spot on the 40 man. I like it.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:23 PM

I like getting Slama up and Swarzak to start. Second preference is to recall Hendricks and leave Swarzak in the pen. Leave Duensing alone.
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:39 PM

Duensing hasn't even begun to stretch out into starting capacity and it would be asinine to convert him back to a starter.

I don't like Swarzak much, but I would take that route if it meant Slama would be FINALLY promoted.


They were stretching him out last week. http://www.twincitie...retch-out-brian

I think Slama deserves his chance but I don't think I'm as optimistic as you. Turpen in AA has really been intriguing. Interesting to see if they move him up to AAA if Slama comes up.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:54 PM

This isn't hard to figure out. Liriano goes back in the rotation, Slama takes his place in the pen and on the 25 man roster.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 04:59 PM

what was your favorite jason marquis moment?

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:00 PM

This isn't hard to figure out. Liriano goes back in the rotation, Slama takes his place in the pen and on the 25 man roster.


Butera to Closer, Liriano to the rotation, Morneau to emergency third catcher, Doumit to starting catcher, Mauer to third, Capps to Golden Coral, Nishioka to Ft Myers, Joe Benson to a batting cage.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:07 PM

what was your favorite jason marquis moment?


Today at 4:08 PM

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:11 PM

This isn't hard to figure out. Liriano goes back in the rotation, Slama takes his place in the pen and on the 25 man roster.


I think that for the short and long term this makes the most sense:

- They need to get Liriano going so they can get some value for him
- Would be great for Hendriks and Guerra to get some success in AAA before they join the team in September and in 2013
- Slama is way overdue to be in the bigs

Cole DeVries is a good story and he will probably be up soon also replacing the next SP who needs replacing (Blackburn? Walters?)
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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:15 PM

I think that for the short and long term this makes the most sense:

- They need to get Liriano going so they can get some value for him
- Would be great for Hendriks and Guerra to get some success in AAA before they join the team in September and in 2013
- Slama is way overdue to be in the bigs

Cole DeVries is a good story and he will probably be up soon also replacing the next SP who needs replacing (Blackburn? Walters?)

Guerra is out of options starting next year, if he continues to succeed in AAA you need to consider bringing him up soon, I'd be pretty surprised if he isn't on the team by the all star break, Sept is to long to wait IMO. I think Hendriks will be back up by then as well, not nesicarly due to him earning it, more just the rotation continuing to be terrible overall.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

This isn't hard to figure out. Liriano goes back in the rotation, Slama takes his place in the pen and on the 25 man roster.


If Liriano's back to starting, who pitches the other 7 innings of his starts? I understand wanting Liriano to break out but he's done nothing the last two years to suggest he should be starting.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:26 PM

If Liriano's back to starting, who pitches the other 7 innings of his starts? I understand wanting Liriano to break out but he's done nothing the last two years to suggest he should be starting.


Unlike other options, he has, at least, shown above average ability at certain points of his career.

What other option can you say that about? Duensing maybe, but that seemed pretty illusory at the time, as proven later. Plus, he looks like he can be a real asset in the pen. Leave him there.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:32 PM

Good move. With how he is pitching now, I can't see another team claiming him. There is the random chance that he could figure his stuff out in Rochester, and he'd still be in the system if he's needed. And, open up another spot on the 40 man. I like it.


Do you really think he'd accept going to Rochester? He can turn it down, as a 5-year veteran, can't he? If he is indeed better in the NL, and is "condemned" to AAA again, why not try to sign a minor league contract with a NL team? Better chance to get back up that way.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

Do you really think he'd accept going to Rochester? He can turn it down, as a 5-year veteran, can't he? If he is indeed better in the NL, and is "condemned" to AAA again, why not try to sign a minor league contract with a NL team? Better chance to get back up that way.


I'd be pretty surprised if an NL team wouldn't pick him up within a week.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

Do you really think he'd accept going to Rochester? He can turn it down, as a 5-year veteran, can't he? If he is indeed better in the NL, and is "condemned" to AAA again, why not try to sign a minor league contract with a NL team? Better chance to get back up that way.


If he refuses Rochester, he forfeits the remainder of his contract, no?

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:47 PM

If he refuses Rochester, he forfeits the remainder of his contract, no?


I could be wrong, but, no, I think he keeps it.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:08 PM

If he refuses Rochester, he forfeits the remainder of his contract, no?


That can't be right.

The only reason he accepted the earlier start in AAA or was it AA? Was that the Twins guaranteed him to be back on the major league team by X date.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:20 PM

That can't be right.

The only reason he accepted the earlier start in AAA or was it AA? Was that the Twins guaranteed him to be back on the major league team by X date.


I'm not positive, and I've been trying to find a copy of the 2012 basic contract on line with no luck, but I think it works like this: if he goes through waivers unclaimed, the Twins can attempt to reassign his contract to Rochester. He has the right to refuse, and become a FA, but in doing so, forfeits the remainder of this contract.

At least that's the way I read the basic contract in effect 2007-2011 (Article XIX, A. 2). A player with more than five years can refuse assignment to the minors, but in doing so becomes a FA and "is not entitled to termination pay." "Termination pay" is defined elsewhere as the remainer of the contract for that season (article IX). You can find the 2007-2011 basic contract with a google search for "MLB basic contract."

I could be wrong.