Posted 13 May 2012 - 06:48 PM
Posted 13 May 2012 - 07:19 PM
Edited by minn55441, 13 May 2012 - 08:00 PM.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 07:52 PM
Posted 13 May 2012 - 08:01 PM
So far, the Twins are 3-1 when he's catching. Since he joined the team, they are 1-7 when he's on the bench. He hasn't really hit any worse than we expected, and isn't really hitting any worse than expected. He's got 3 hits and one run over 12 ABs, compared to Plouffe's 4 hits and two runs in 31 AB over his last ten games.
When Mourneau comes back, I really think Butera's worth keeping around. It's going to be a bit of a juggle to get Doumit and Mourneau AB's, but honestly I'd much rather have Butera starting and Doumit as a PH option than the other way around.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 08:15 PM
Posted 13 May 2012 - 10:34 PM
He's been quite impressive behind the plate. I think he calls a great game and today, he deserves a lot of credit for diamond's results. offensively, I'm not worried about him at all. When looking at the TWins top 20 issues, Drew Butera probably isn't in them.
Well you miight not be worried, but The Twins are last in the AL in runs.
The likes of Drew Butera represent the problem, not the solution.
Posted 13 May 2012 - 11:29 PM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 12:37 AM
I agree Butera hasn't been as horrible as expected, but there's no way he should get starts over Doumit, who is leading the team in RBI, and would probably have a lot more if those batting behind him weren't so weak and he got some better pitches to hit. Butera may be improved and may be a good defensive catcher, but there's no way he starts over Doumit right now.
Is it possible that Butera deserves significant credit for the recent success of our pitchers? If so, then I would like to see him play often, because I am sick of seeing opponents scoring early and often. And Doumit might be worth trying at third base, so that we can get more production there, or he could play right field, first base and catch occasionally.
Maybe it's just a coincidence, or maybe I am mistaken, but my impression is that our pitchers fare better when he is catching.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:14 AM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:40 AM
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Edited by JB_Iowa, 14 May 2012 - 08:12 AM.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:23 AM
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:25 AM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:27 AM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:31 AM
I think the Twins should give Plouffe the rest of the month. I like him better at third than most here do, but he needs to hit to stick. In the early part of the season, I always have a rule--add a 4-4 to a guy who's struggling and see what the numbers look like and add an 0-10 to a guy who has started out hot. Numbers can change that quick right now. Even adding 4-4 to Plouffe's numbers wouldn't bring him above the Mendoza line, so he would need to be hot for more than a game or two to get to acceptability.
So, Butera's not horrible, and maybe helped Diamond pitch his second beauty. OK.
It's too bad about Plouffe. It seemed like he had a bat. Maybe if he hit at a .400 clip his next 10 games...In a way I'm glad the team's still hoping he'll still seize the day, you never know. And, Capps isn't an abomination. Another quasi-bright spot in a dark and lonely season.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:45 AM
Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:00 AM
if you follow the link for all catchers, you'll see that Butera has a negative influence on framing pitches. Even if you don't believe the numbers are precise, I'd say that the conclusions of the study indicate that Butera is likely not quite the help with the pitchers as you all think. He's about neutral. Now, compared to Doumit, he's a framing savant. Compared to Mauer, he's statisically about the same.
There is a huge difference between correlation, and causation. I find it amazing that people believe that Butera starting makes it more likely the Twins win games. His offense was historically bad last year. No amount of catcher defense can make up for the number of runs he does not produce as a hitter.
Posted 14 May 2012 - 09:23 AM