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Article: Valencia Optioned to Rochester (More Moves, Maloney, Mastroianni, Walters)

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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:25 PM

You can view the page at http://www.twinsdail...ed-to-Rochester

#2 adjacent

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:29 PM

May be the change of hitting coach will help

#3 Rosterman

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:33 PM

Where is Ben Revere.

#4 zchrz

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:34 PM

so now we have 3 catchers + 13 pitchers + 6 possible outfielders defiantly a well constructed roster.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:35 PM

With the current state of the rotation I think the Twins have just decided to scrap the 3B position altogether and put all hands on deck in the outfield.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

Who is the starting 3B?! I would assume Plouffe will get a crack at it. Carroll and Casilla will get their licks too, especially if Mastroianni gets any time at 2B. Interesting moves...

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

Good moves at this time! Valencia needs a change of scenery. He will always be a journeyman, at best. Swing is too long--can't handle, or is a sucker for the outside and low breaking ball. Similar to what Cuddyer would always fall for! Besides, Valencia will not be a part of the future with the infielders coming up in a few years.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:38 PM

It occurs to me that Plouffe is an infielder again. It also occurs to me that the bottom half of the roster isn't important. I don't know what the official spin on Valencia's demotion will be, but the word "humbling" comes to me. Also "tuneup". Valencia could go either way--come back with a vengence or continue his slide from regular on a division winner to .....Triple A third baseman. I hope Maloney gets through to Rochester. I liked what I saw of him in spring training and I think he could be an effective starter, but he doesn't seem cut out for the bullpen.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:41 PM

If anything it sends the message that players will begin to be held responsible for performance. Liriano needs to figure something out! I would think Carroll would be the 3B. Not to sure if Gardy wants to see Plouffe throwing across the diamond too much again this season.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

I don't think either Walters or Mastroianni will be with the team for the duration, but I can't disagree with moving Valencia or Maloney. Valencia does not help with the bat or glove and has little value on the bench. He lived off his mirage of a high babip his rookie season. This is his season to step it up or disappear. Still a chance he will get hot in AAA and get another chance. Most likely his best year in his career will have been his first. It is unlikely anyone will pick up Maloney. If the Twins retain him, I hope he goes into the Rochester rotation. Lefties will always get more shots and sometimes develop later as a result. Not sure how Mastroianni fits with Komatsu as an extra OF that are poor PH options. I don't know why they need two of them. Seems redundant though they did give Mastroianni did play 5 games at 2B. That doesn't make him a good option at 2B. Any chance the Twins will have a claim in for Blake DeWitt? I would guess Walters will be a long reliever. I don't see anything encouraging in his minor league numbers. I would have rather seen them look at Slama. Do they really need 13 pitchers?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

Well, I guess this is no surprise. Not too excited about Carroll and Casilla playing the hot corner. As far as Plouffe playing 3B, I'd have to see it to believe it. I hope they let him have a shot without a short leash. Overall this is a move that should have been made. Maloney for Walters is a wash. Maybe Walters will catch some lightning in a bottle.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

Seems like the right thing to do at the time. I think Casilla's arm should be good enough for third. Walters is sorta intriguing. Seems to have a decent krate at least. Maybe he can stick.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:55 PM

If anything it sends the message that players will begin to be held responsible for performance. Liriano needs to figure something out! I would think Carroll would be the 3B. Not to sure if Gardy wants to see Plouffe throwing across the diamond too much again this season.


A little late to start holding players responsible for sucking. Not sure Gardy wants to stick around much longer...

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:56 PM

Well I got my wish. I haven't been liking what I've seen from Danny all season and was calling for his demotion long before his 0-for-whatever skid. If Danny was put in a situation to succeed and help the team, he inevitably failed, which tells me his problems are more mental than physical, trying too hard perhaps. Too bad for Maloney. A resurgence (or surgence?) from him would have been a feel-good story. Still never understood Bill Smith adding him to the 40-man roster right away in the winter. I'm a Gardy fan and am not interested in discussing him being fired, but what does this say about his roster construction out of spring training? How could he have been so wrong about so many of the players he hand-selected to head north with the team?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:59 PM

At long last...Mauer to 3b! I wish.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:04 PM

Bout time! Put Carroll at 3rd. Well see how this new pitcher does on Saturday.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:06 PM

Gotta believe that Carroll plays third every time before Casilla goes over there. I would think Plouffe plays third before they would use Casilla. Carroll has played over 200 games at 3B, Casilla has played 19 innings (1 start).

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:06 PM

Feels like the team is not so slowly disintegrating. Whatever.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:24 PM

Atteberry was reporting on the postgame radio broadcast that Walters was up for Liriano to go to the bullpen. Maybe that's already common knowledge, but it's the first I've heard of it. Anyone?

Edit to add: LEN3 reporting it at Strib: http://www.startribu.../150885045.html

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:42 PM

At long last...Mauer to 3b!

I wish.


See Joe's throw into Albert's backside this evening? He's got a soft glove, and good footwork, and a great arm. Just - he needs to work on the angles out in the field some. Give him time and he could be an excellent third baseman. But - does that mean we're stuck with Drew & Doumit behind the plate for the duration? One can hit but hasn't got a position on a team with a $20M DH, and the other one can't hit the gaps more than a few times per year.

However - to the point: Valencia was a mess behind the plate and, if he wasn't willing to do whatever was required to fix the problem, well, if this team needs to make an example of somebody, nothing wrong with choosing a guy who isn't contributing at the moment but at least has a chance to right the ship in the minors.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

This is interesting...what are the chances that Maloney is claimed by another team? And I think that Carroll will be moved to 3b. As I am from Eden Prairie, I am interested in how long it will be before the Twins call up EP native Cole DeVries, because I think that he is the 3rd pitcher down in AAA behind Diamond and Walters.

Edited by J-Dog Dungan, 09 May 2012 - 10:49 PM.


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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:08 PM

I believe Burroughs is in Rochester thinking. VELENCIA!!! I just got away from him and now he's following me. I went from the majors to AAA backup in a month.

#23 Shane Wahl

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:18 PM

Good moves. Hopefully Walters starts and Liriano is sent to the 'pen.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:53 PM

so now we have 3 catchers + 13 pitchers + 6 possible outfielders defiantly a well constructed roster.


Well stated. ;)

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:05 AM

At long last...Mauer to 3b!

I wish.


In the long run, this would be the smart move - because Migy Sano @ 3B is like Migy Cabrerra @ 3B - kinda scary. If Sano doesn't improve his fielding he'll either be at 1B or DH.

This clearly isn't the final structure of this year's roster.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:10 AM

Who needs power out of the corner infield positions! Between Mauer and Carroll the Twins may not get 5 homers this year. The Twins are a laughingstock!!!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:10 AM


Too bad for Maloney. A resurgence (or surgence?) from him would have been a feel-good story. Still never understood Bill Smith adding him to the 40-man roster right away in the winter.


Maloney was claimed on waivers so he had to be added to the 40-man roster, Smith didn't have a choice. The only other option was to wait to see if he cleared waivers and then try to sign him to a minor league contract.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:20 AM

With another outfielder coming up, I would imagine that Plouffe will have the opportunity to play most of the time at 3B.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:22 AM

Maloney was claimed on waivers so he had to be added to the 40-man roster, Smith didn't have a choice. The only other option was to wait to see if he cleared waivers and then try to sign him to a minor league contract.


Actually he did have a choice - pass on Maloney and sign a different journeyman pitcher to a minor league deal. For some reason Smith liked Maloney enough to take that risk.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:36 AM

Not sure that I like the pitching moves, because: - Maloney was not the worse pitcher in the Twins' pen, it was Gray - Walters was not the best starter in Rochester, it was DeVries - Liriano was not the worse Twins' starter, it was Marquis (or very close, and Liriano has been trending better) - I don't think that Liriano has much future with the Twins and by demoting him to the pen they decrease his trading value. And at this point they better think trading value instead of 2012 wins. As far as Valencia goes. Yes, he did not meet expectations this season but his defense has been better. And the Twins do not have a third baseman out there. Maybe Carroll can fill in. Hope Brunanksy set his straight. But recalling Mastroianni? Not sure that this makes sense with Komatsu being on the team. (Not sure that Komatsu bein on the team makes sense either.) All I know is that the Twins took away a guy who if straighten up can hit for power and brought in a pirnaha...
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