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#1 the_youngster

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Posted 08 July 2014 - 11:55 PM

Michael Cuddyer's has a long history with the Twins. As one of the favorite players of fans and teammates alike in Twins territory, he will be a free agent once again following a season which has seen him placed on the 60 day disabled list. As Willingham will likely be traded, Hicks unable to adjust to MLB, Buxton missing most of 2014, and Rosario also missing a lot of time along with general ineffectiveness, there will likely be holes to be filled for the 2015 outfield. Really the only virtual lock for the outfield next season is Arcia.

At the beginning of the season there were hopes of a 2015 opening day outfield of Arcia, Hicks, and Buxton. That is quite unlikely now. Thus a Cuddyer reunion could make sense. A contract that could last at most three seasons, whether by options or not, could be of great use for the Twins. A leader and mentor for the young outfielders, a leader in the clubhouse as a whole, a fan favorite, a veteran who could help transition a club to its future as his career begins its finale, Cuddyer would be a pleasant upgrade for 2015, in my opinion.

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#2 Shane Wahl

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:55 AM

Absolutely not. His career right now might be over anyway with this injury. Even without it though, there is just too much risk of decline. And the Twins will roll with Buxton, Rosario, Hicks, and Arcia very soon.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 04:14 AM

I hope Cuddy gets a nice contract from a team other than the Twins

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:14 AM

No interest at all. Stop signing old players with no future. Take flyers on young guys that might turn out. Zero. Nada. Nil. No interest at all.

Three seasons? that is a terrible idea for an old player that can't stay healthy.

Rosario in LF, Santana in CF, Arcia in RF to start the year. See what happens. Or, go get some AAA OF from someone for little cost.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:19 AM

I'd be thrilled if they gave him a nice broadcasting contract. Player's contract? No.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:28 AM

Cuddyer is my all-time favorite player for many more reasons than his performance on the field. That said, I am pretty meh on a reunion with him. The price and years would have to be right.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:38 AM

They could hire Cuddy to go with TC to appearances and do magic tricks for the kids.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 06:51 AM

Sentimentally, sure, sign him up for one year to be the 25th Man the way that Cleveland/Colorado have been using Jason Giambi - or if both Willingham and Morales are gone, I could see a case for signing him to be a full-time DH. I'd prefer the DH at-bats going to a combo of Parmelee/Kennys Vargas/Mauer/Pinto.

I agree with most here that the outfield spots should go to our prospects and young talent. Arcia is the only lock right now for 2015, I bet Danny Santana will get a long look to be the opening day CF, then it's Rosario/Hicks to fight it out to make the team. If they bring Fuld back he can still be a decent 4th outfielder.

Would be nice if they upgraded with a trade or free agency with a good LF.

Cuddy gets a sentimental vote from me, but I think ultimately it would be better for the Twins and Cuddyer to wait until his playing days are over for the reunion.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:23 AM

If Cuddyer represents the best way to upgrade the lineup, go ahead and sign him.

What I don't want is for the Twins to sign him primarily for sentimental reasons. One of my biggest pet peeves with the Twins organization is their nostalgia at the expense of forward-thinking.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:31 AM

No interest at all. Stop signing old players with no future. Take flyers on young guys that might turn out. Zero. Nada. Nil. No interest at all.

Three seasons? that is a terrible idea for an old player that can't stay healthy.

Rosario in LF, Santana in CF, Arcia in RF to start the year. See what happens. Or, go get some AAA OF from someone for little cost.


Agreed. Put me in the camp of extremely leary of giving Gardy the option of an aging player that was good for him in the past. After the three this year, I have had my fix.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:33 AM

They could hire Cuddy to go with TC to appearances and do magic tricks for the kids.


After some thought, I can support this type of reunion.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:35 AM

I'd like to think Parmelee hits well enough to be considered the front runner for a corner spot next year and Arcia turns it around and is a lock for the other. If those things don't happen, I bet the Twins do take a long look at Cuddyer this offseason. Had he not hurt his shoulder, he was well on his way to another multi-year deal. With the injury, he may only get one now. The Twins surely would be curious, though I wish they'd move on.

There are a lot of ex-Twins on the market next year, Cuddyer, Torii Hunter, Francisco Liriano, JJ Hardy, Jesse Crain, Pat Neshak, AJ Pierzynski, Ryan Doumit, Alexi Casilla and Delmon Young are free agents while Denard Span has an option that will likely be declined and Nick Punto and LeTroy Hawkins have options that likely will be picked up.

I have great some memories of all of those guys (yes, even Delmon) but I know that the enjoyment of a reunion almost always comes at the expense of development of a younger player.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 07:43 AM

Agreed. Put me in the camp of extremely leary of giving Gardy the option of an aging player that was good for him in the past. After the three this year, I have had my fix.


I agree, and while Gardy doesn't seem as willing to change his philosophy, I will give the front office some credit for changing things when they are no longer working. Previously I thought they were too stubborn to change, but they've advanced minor leaguers quicker, they've concentrated on power arms in the draft and they gave out multi-year deals in free agency. I always thought they would not do these things simply because they were bullheaded.

I'm guessing Ryan and company have seen the disaster that was the reunion tour this year and may have second thoughts next year. Also, Rob Anthony was in charge when the rosters were set coming out of spring training. He seems to be more of a numbers guy than a baseball guy and may have leaned on Gardy for advice in putting the 25 man together. If Gardy had told Ryan that he wanted to bring Bartlett and Kubel north, Ryan may have told him no, though we'll never know.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 08:52 AM

I'd like to think Parmelee hits well enough to be considered the front runner for a corner spot next year and Arcia turns it around and is a lock for the other. If those things don't happen, I bet the Twins do take a long look at Cuddyer this offseason. Had he not hurt his shoulder, he was well on his way to another multi-year deal. With the injury, he may only get one now. The Twins surely would be curious, though I wish they'd move on.

There are a lot of ex-Twins on the market next year, Cuddyer, Torii Hunter, Francisco Liriano, JJ Hardy, Jesse Crain, Pat Neshak, AJ Pierzynski, Ryan Doumit, Alexi Casilla and Delmon Young are free agents while Denard Span has an option that will likely be declined and Nick Punto and LeTroy Hawkins have options that likely will be picked up.

I have great some memories of all of those guys (yes, even Delmon) but I know that the enjoyment of a reunion almost always comes at the expense of development of a younger player.


off topic, but this is my favorite Delmon memory:
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:17 AM

Anyone notice that Delmon is quitely having a pretty decent year as a platoon player?

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 11:28 AM

We need to get away from nostalgia deals, this season should've been a fine lesson in that.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:00 PM

We need to get away from nostalgia deals, this season should've been a fine lesson in that.


Of all the former Twins listed, I think Neshek and Denard have the best chance to provide meaningful value to the 2015 team. I don't think the Twins should try to sign any of them.

If Span is willing and able to play in Left Field, there's value there.

But no to Cuddyer, no to Torii, no to Hardy and the rest - we can still have fond memories and those players without giving them a roster spot.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:04 PM

NO it's time to bring in or up some guys that can play defense. Slow footed guys like Cuddy, Arcia, Willy, Parmalee and Colobello do not belong in a good outfield. Unless we get a bunch of miss the bat pitchers we need serious up grades in our outfield defense, imo.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:15 PM

I wouldn't be opposed to Cuddyer on a one or two yr deal as long as everyone, including Cuddyer, understands he is not going to be a regular starter.

The minor leagues are never going to supply the Twins with everything needed to be a good team. Even if several minor leaguers develop into good major league regulars, the Twins are still going to need to supplement the roster from outside the organization. Given a return to health, I think Cuddyer can still be a useful player on a good team.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:16 PM

I think Cuddy could make a fine coach in the organization at some point, and would enjoy seeing him in that capacity. Bartlett too.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 12:30 PM

A team could sign Cuddyer for probably way too much to regress back to the .260's (which would make him one of this team's average leaders, unfortunately) or less. No to Cuddyer. Yes to Torii, the ageless wonder. I doubt Torii would accept, however.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 01:09 PM

I'd give Cuddyer a 1 year deal, have him compete with Plouffe etc for the last OF spot.
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Posted 09 July 2014 - 10:48 PM

Plouffe will still be at 3B for next season. The first half at least. I would gladly welcome Cuddyer back for a fair 1 year or 1 year with option. The 2015 team will need a proven vet, or two, in the heart of the lineup to help the team produce, hopefully win, to help the kids learn how to win, and conversely, provide professional examples. Who better than Cuddy if he has something left, which it appears he does.

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Posted 10 July 2014 - 02:16 AM

Rather make an offer to Hunter.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:30 AM

They don't need a proven veteran, they need talent. If that happens to be a veteran, that does not block a prospect, fine. But proven veteraniness for veteraniness' sake? No thank you.
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Posted 10 July 2014 - 07:49 AM

Abosolutely, just seek talent first. I'd take a 5+ WAR season from a player regardless of their age.