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#1 gunnarthor

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 09:59 PM

http://www.cbssports...wins-turnaround

Not really news but sorta news. Twins will be listening to offers on Hammer and Correia after the ASB. Hammer will be one of the better RH power options on the market but Correia will be harder to move.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:03 PM

Here's hoping they both get hot

#3 B Richard

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

That should get us some fresh balls for BP. I like the move

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 10:17 PM

I think Hammer should return something more than a bucket of balls. Not sure about Correia. The Yankees might be a fit, with the news that Sabathia is done and the poor performances of his replacement.
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#5 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 11:57 PM

If Ryan can get something for Sweet Drew, I'm sure he can get something for the sunshine band.

#6 TheLeviathan

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:40 AM

Man do I hope this is true. Watching guys nearing 40 play their way to 90 losses does get depressing.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:55 AM

Man do I hope this is true. Watching guys nearing 40 play their way to 90 losses does get depressing.

It is much more exciting to see 25 year old players battle to hit even the Mendoza line

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 06:30 AM

I hope that isnt all they plan on moving. I would add Guerrier to that list and possibly Duensing. I believe the Twins non tender Duensing and then re sign him in the offseason anyway. I would add Burton to this list but I honestly believe there simply is no market for him and that if he were packaged the return might be less.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:41 AM

"..... but they are starting to tell teams that if they aren't contending later this month they'll make outfielder Josh Willingham and right-handed starter Kevin Correia available...."

Somebody really has to have a talk with Terry and tell him this team is not a playoff contender!

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:45 AM

Heyman is one of the most frustrating national writers to read, because he is using useless numbers to make his arguments. Ergo:

(Willingham) is hitting just .228 with seven home runs and 23 RBI this year.


Willingham missed a whole bunch of games and that hurt his HR total. He really is "hitting" .229/.377/.458 for .835 OPS and 133 OPS+ How many hitters are available out there with 133 OPS+ ?

Correia, who is 5-10 with a 4.95 ERA


that 5-10 is as relevant for Correia as 6-3 (his listed height), and not to mention wrong. His record is 4-10. BUT. His FIP is 4.11, which is less than his All Star year (it was 4.85) and his best since 2009. A pitcher to build your rotation around? No. But he is better than the likes of Chris Capuano (signed by the Dodgers last week) and AAAA starters to be the fifth starter in a competitive team. If someone is willing to sign Chris Capuano, they should be willing to give something for Correia. Not that hard of a sell...
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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:53 AM

Heyman is one of the most frustrating national writers to read, because he is using useless numbers to make his arguments. Ergo:


I don't think anyone reads Heyman for stats. He's one of the better plugged in writers in baseball and when he says the Twins will make Hammer available it probably has a lot more authority when some internet blogger says the Twins will resign Scott Baker. :-)

I think, so long as he stays healthy, Hammer will have real value since RH power is one of the hardest things to find right now and offense in general is down. And Ryan was able to get something for Liriano, Buetera, Morneau so I think he'll get something for Correia. I do hope he listens on offers for Dozier since, with Rosario, Polanco, Santana, Gordon we should be able to replace him and I think he could get us a really good piece back. But we'll see.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 08:58 AM

It is much more exciting to see 25 year old players battle to hit even the Mendoza line


Whose fault is that? Get rid of both of these inane tendencies.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 09:04 AM

Whatever they return, there's a good chance it won't be any less than what these guys have left to contribute in any meaningful way. They have no business on the 2015 roster so it's time to turn them into something that even remotely could be.

Edited by twinsnorth49, 06 July 2014 - 12:44 PM.


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Posted 06 July 2014 - 09:14 AM

Correia may not be that hard. He is a Vet arm that did ok in the NL. Hammer is a guy that should get some serious attention.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 10:49 AM

The Yankees designated Alfonso Soriano for assignment

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:36 AM

Whose fault is that? Get rid of both of these inane tendencies.


There are 99 players hitting below .220 with at least 50 AB. There are 135 players with 50 AB who don't even have a positive WAR. 220 out of a possible 430 are below 0.5 WAR. There are a lot of marginal players out there. It is a problem every team has. Who's fault is it? Blame Brayce Hemmeigarn. You can't blame one person.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

Heyman is one of the most frustrating national writers to read, because he is using useless numbers to make his arguments. Ergo:



Willingham missed a whole bunch of games and that hurt his HR total. He really is "hitting" .229/.377/.458 for .835 OPS and 133 OPS+ How many hitters are available out there with 133 OPS+ ?



that 5-10 is as relevant for Correia as 6-3 (his listed height), and not to mention wrong. His record is 4-10. BUT. His FIP is 4.11, which is less than his All Star year (it was 4.85) and his best since 2009. A pitcher to build your rotation around? No. But he is better than the likes of Chris Capuano (signed by the Dodgers last week) and AAAA starters to be the fifth starter in a competitive team. If someone is willing to sign Chris Capuano, they should be willing to give something for Correia. Not that hard of a sell...


Exactly.

#18 Mike Sixel

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 12:55 PM

Why wait? If they lose out on trade possibilities because of some silly deadline they self impose, that would be bad management.....which would not surprise me after the last two offseasons.

I don't know, it is a site to discuss sports, not airline safety.....maybe we should take it less seriously?


#19 Thrylos

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 12:59 PM

Ftfy:

why wait? If they lose out on trade possibilities because of some silly deadline they self impose, that would be bad management.....which would not surprise me after the last twenty offseasons.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 05:46 PM

There are 99 players hitting below .220 with at least 50 AB. There are 135 players with 50 AB who don't even have a positive WAR. 220 out of a possible 430 are below 0.5 WAR. There are a lot of marginal players out there. It is a problem every team has. Who's fault is it? Blame Brayce Hemmeigarn. You can't blame one person.


Absolutely, but the goal of a GM should be to reduce the number of marginal players. So not sure what you're defending here - we don't want those players. Nor should we want guys nearing 40 who aren't helping you win.