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Game Thread: Twins v White Sox, 6/21 @ 1:10pm CT

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#1 ChiTownTwinsFan

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 09:58 AM

Game-time forecast: Partly cloudy. Winds blowing in from right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Temperature near 85.

White Sox:
SP, Rienzo

Eaton CF
Beckham 2B
Gillaspie 3B
Abreu 1B
Dunn DH
Ramirez SS
Viciedo RF
De Aza LF
Nieto C

Twins:
SP, Correia

Santana SS
Dozier 2B
Mauer DH
Morales 1B
Arcia RF
Suzuki C
Parmelee LF
Escobar 3B
Fuld CF

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Okay, Bri, go to it. I think these lineups will give you a few things to think about, not that you need any help as your brain seems bursting with plenty to work with! :)
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It's long been assumed that my brain burst along time ago. I used to love the taste of paint chips.

Things to think About:

1. Andre Rienzo -- He's 25 years old and from the baseball hotbed known as San Paulo Brazil. I'd imagine that the entire country of Brazil will have the TV's on and their eyes glued to it as they watch every pitch thrown by Rienzo with heavy anticipation. There is nothing else going on in Brazil to capture their attention. Rienzo is struggling this year with a current 5.67 ERA. In his last two starts he has given up 6 and 7 earned runs. However... he shouldn't be faulted for this... Because he's from southern half of the globe. It's technically Winter in Brazil and therefore his off season. On the other side of the equator everything is the opposite... Things circle around the drain the opposite way... In Brazil and Patagonia... Curveballs break the opposite way. Just try to imagine what it's like to learn how to pitch with a curveball that breaks one way and all of a sudden it reverses on you as a pitcher when you come North. Of course he's going to struggle!!! Despite this handicap... Rienzo became the first pitcher from Brazil to ever win a game in MLB. This puts Rienzo on the same list with other famous firsts... Such as Adam and Eve... Marco Polo and George Washington.

2. Oswaldo Arcia -- Uff Da... After an 0-3 last night. He is now 0 for his last 21. He could go 4-4 today and be 4 for 25 and that would only be a .160 stretch of baseball. He had sat two games prior as the Twins tried to convince him to stop trying to hit the ball to Olmstead county every single time he swung. So... Here's the good news... Oswaldo did not strike out last night. It may seem like baby steps but it's really a big giant leap for mankind. Oswaldo will hit home runs when he hits the ball solid. He doesn't need to swing harder... he just needs to square it up.

3. Josh Willingham -- Takes a seat on the bench today... I think this good... Parmelee has been hitting decently in limited chances and Willingham was a little clanky in the field last night in the 9th. Arcia may be worse of late but Hammer has been a little all or nothing at the plate as his BA has plummeted in recent weeks. I think you can start talking about Brian Dozier the same. Brian has made himself into a power hitter and he could be sacrificing other parts of his game to be a power guy. With that said... Nice clutch single last night Brian!!!

4. Eduardo Escobar -- I used to be a pretty consistent supporter of Pedro Florimon because of his defensive skill. The honest truth was that I didn't know what we had in Eduardo Escobar because he didn't get a bunch of chances to play and when he did... he was nothing but ordinary. Things have changed in 2014. I no longer support Florimon because Florimon is hitting around .100 which is just too low to support ever. Meanwhile... Escobar has grabbed a hold of a starting spot and it starting to look non-fluky to me. Escobar is looking like a ball player to the bone and ball players are guys I get behind. Last night with the bases loaded he went down and lined a double down the line. Clutch... I tell you... it was Clutch... This drove in 2 runs and put a runner on third who was then drove in with a Fuld sac fly. It's easy to say that Escobar was responsible for 3 Twin runs on the board and that brings us to the ninth. With Escobar on 2nd... Dozier jammed a liner into LF. Viciedo picked up the ball in mid LF as Escobar was touching 3B and rounding it and being waved in. I was screaming at the TV... NO NO NO... He doesn't have a chance. Luckily Viciedo took about two minutes to throw the ball and even after delivering an accurate throw to the plate. Escobar was able to reach his right hand around the catcher and score. That was a ball player slide... and Escobar is a ball player!!! No doubt about it... Escobar played a role in 4 of the Twins 5 runs and he won that game for us. While we wait for Dozier, Mauer, Hammer, Kendrys and Arcia to snap out of it... Thank Goodness we have a ball player in Edaurdo Escobar.

5. Nagging -- I spent last night watching the Twins with a friend who had invited me over. He's had a girlfriend for the past year and let me tell you... Is she ever trying to teach him stuff. We were just trying to watch the Twins game and she'd come around and tell him to sit up straight if he slightly slouched in his chair... She said his third beer was way too much... The TV was too loud... The bag of Doritos were not good for him and his fingers were all orange now and he'd have to wash his hands. Certain stories that he told were not interesting to her and she felt that he shouldn't bore other people with his stories. It was pretty rough to watch. I didn't want to inject myself into the situation so I sat quietly and observed it all. When he went to the bathroom to wash his hands. She apologized to me for his behavior. Well now... she is dragging me into it and his behavior was perfectly fine to me... it was hers that was making me uncomfortable. So I said... "Don't worry about it... He's over 40 years old and entitled to be himself in his own home". To which she replied... "I'm just trying to make him a better person"... To Which I replied... "I'd be careful... If you make him a better person... He might go find a better girlfriend who doesn't mind his orange fingers." (Pause)... "Can you pass me the Doritos"?

Edited by Riverbrian, 21 June 2014 - 11:47 AM.


#2 jokin

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:44 AM

Looks like Gardy made that substitution in LF of Parmelee-for-Willingham one inning too late.

And apparently, the day-game-after-night-game switch to DH is now in effect for Mauer at First Base?

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:50 AM

Which is the bigger oddity?

1) The White Sox have both a Brazilian (Rienzo) and a Colombian (Quintana) on their pitching staff.

2) The White Sox have two native Minnesotans (Petricka- Northfield.... and Putnam- Rochester) on their pitching staff.

#4 ChiTownTwinsFan

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:53 AM

Looks like Gardy made that substitution in LF of Parmelee-for-Willingham one inning too late.

And apparently, the day-game-after-night-game switch to DH is now in effect for Mauer at First Base?


Well, for today it would seem. Probably think that it's time to give Morales a look at 1st to see where he's at.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:53 AM

Hey look 2 days in a row, Santana has seen some time at SS and we are playing an actual outfielder in CF.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 10:55 AM

Hey look 2 days in a row, Santana has seen some time at SS and we are playing an actual outfielder in CF.

That is fine, but the best overall shortstop is playing third base.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 11:04 AM

That is fine, but the best overall shortstop is playing third base.


You do mean "as of today", right?

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 11:24 AM

My favorite rendition of Ode to Joy. For today, anyway.

Stonehenge. It's not just for breakfast any more.
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Posted 21 June 2014 - 11:26 AM

And the best 3rd base is playing 3rd base!

That is fine, but the best overall shortstop is playing third base.


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:13 PM

Escobar's performance makes Gardenhire's first day of spring training proclamation "Florimon's my shortstop" all the more unacceptable. The Twins suffered through nearly two months of wretched hitting because Petey was Gardy's guy.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:16 PM

Escobar's performance makes Gardenhire's first day of spring training proclamation "Florimon's my shortstop" all the more unacceptable. The Twins suffered through nearly two months of wretched hitting because Petey was Gardy's guy.


Escobar has been held up as evidence of somebody's incompetence ever since he was acquired by the Twins.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:21 PM

Escobar's performance makes Gardenhire's first day of spring training proclamation "Florimon's my shortstop" all the more unacceptable. The Twins suffered through nearly two months of wretched hitting because Petey was Gardy's guy.


Bingo. And as ST progressed, and it became more and more, first surgically obvious, and then painfully-at-the-plate obvious, that Florimon was unable to swing a major league bat; meanwhile, Gardy had Danny Santana tearing up the Grapefruit League. I know I endorsed starting out Santan with the Twins on a look-see basis, to share the SS duties along with Escobar, until/if the day arrived that Florimon was able to regain some semblance of a swing in AAA. It sure seems like bad personnel evaluation, both before, and after the fact.

Escobar has been held up as evidence of somebody's incompetence ever since he was acquired by the Twins.


Only this time, the evidence is in. FWIW, Esco is still a utility guy in my book, but beating out Florimon didn't take much, and really shouldn't have surprised anybody.

Edited by jokin, 21 June 2014 - 12:25 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:22 PM

1) The White Sox have both a Brazilian (Rienzo) and a Colombian (Quintana) on their pitching staff.


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The above is what I found when I googled "a Colombian". I can not show you what I found when I googled "a Brazilian".

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:24 PM

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The above is what I found when I googled "a Colombian". I can not show you what I found when I googled "a Brazilian".


I must admit, my interest is piqued. This is why we need a Twins Daily- After Dark Edition!

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:26 PM

"He gaw." Why did I click the wrong button and get the TV feed for the Bad Guys by mistake?

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:28 PM

[COLOR=#333333]4. Eduardo Escobar -- I used to be a pretty consistent supporter of Pedro Florimon because of his defensive skill. The honest truth was that I didn't know what we had in Eduardo Escobar because he didn't get a bunch of chances to play and when he did... he was nothing but ordinary. Things have changed in 2014. I no longer support Florimon because Florimon is hitting around .100 which is just too low to support ever. Meanwhile... Escobar has grabbed a hold of a starting spot and it starting to look non-fluky to me. Escobar is looking like a ball player to the bone and ball players are guys I get behind. Last night with the bases loaded he went down and lined a double down the line. Clutch... I tell you... it was Clutch... This drove in 2 runs and put a runner on third who was then drove in with a Fuld sac fly. It's easy to say that Escobar was responsible for 3 Twin runs on the board and that brings us to the ninth. With Escobar on 2nd... Dozier jammed a liner into LF. Viciedo picked up the ball in mid LF as Escobar was touching 3B and rounding it and being waved in. I was screaming at the TV... NO NO NO... He doesn't have a chance. Luckily Viciedo took about two minutes to throw the ball and even after delivering an accurate throw to the plate. Escobar was able to reach his right hand around the catcher and score. That was a ball player slide... and Escobar is a ball player!!! No doubt about it... Escobar played a role in 4 of the Twins 5 runs and he won that game for us. While we wait for Dozier, Mauer, Hammer, Kendrys and Arcia to snap out of it... Thank Goodness we have a ball player in [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Edaurdo[/COLOR][COLOR=#333333] Escobar.[/COLOR]


I'm telling you, the guy gets no respect, even when he's being praised to the hilt.:cry:

Esco is Newmie to the Nth degree.

Edited by jokin, 21 June 2014 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:29 PM

I must admit, my interest is piqued.


I also tried googling the combination of both search terms. Juan Valdez after his visit to Rio isn't an image I wanted my retinas scarred with.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:30 PM

I'm telling you, the guy gets no respect, even when he's being praised to the hilt.:cry:


Not to mention, we just caused that error he was charged with.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:31 PM

"He gaw." Why did I click the wrong button and get the TV feed for the Bad Guys by mistake?


And now their PBP guy mentions someone named ar-SEE-ya. Too lazy to learn the opponents' names, apparently.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:35 PM

When he went to the bathroom to wash his hands. She apologized to me for his behavior. Well now... she is dragging me into it and his behavior was perfectly fine to me... it was hers that was making me uncomfortable. So I said... "Don't worry about it... He's over 40 years old and entitled to be himself in his own home". To which she replied... "I'm just trying to make him a better person"... To Which I replied... "I'd be careful... If you make him a better person... He might go find a better girlfriend who doesn't mind his orange fingers." (Pause)... "Can you pass me the Doritos"?


So, how long until you were in the bathroom washing your hands? Did you go willingly on your own or did she have to lead you there?

Edited by ashburyjohn, 21 June 2014 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:35 PM

Of course we get bad Corriea today. Maybe it can be the last time?

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:39 PM

Zuk not lookin good

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:40 PM

And now their PBP guy mentions someone named ar-SEE-ya. Too lazy to learn the opponents' names, apparently.

E-She-Row concurs.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:41 PM

Of course we get bad Corriea today. Maybe it can be the last time?


Maybe we can get the #FreeAnyoneintheRochesterRotation hashtag trending on Twitter?

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:41 PM

Of course we get bad Corriea today. Maybe it can be the last time?


More like unlucky Correia from April. He had an outfielder play a single into a triple, and he wouldn't have scored on Abreu's hit IMO. And Escobar's error has now led to a run and about 15-20 extra pitches thrown. An ugly 15-20 pitches, yes, but they shouldn't have been needed.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:42 PM

Of course we get bad Corriea today. Maybe it can be the last time?


Your post immediately gave me my idea for Twins hum-a-long song-of-the-day:

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Come to think of it, Correia's pitching actually fits the "B" side even better.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:47 PM

Your post immediately gave me my idea for Twins hum-a-long song-of-the-day:



Come to think of it, Correia's pitching actually fits the "B" side even better.

[COLOR=#000000][FONT=proxnov-reg]Well I told you once and I told you twice[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=proxnov-reg]You never listen to my advice[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=proxnov-reg]You don't try very hard to please me[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:48 PM

Come on, Parm. Tie this baby up.

... OK, then, come on Esco, give us the lead.

... Well, it's up to Sam, then, to get this party started.

... Twins Baseball. Gotta love it!

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 12:54 PM

Two out scoring rallies from the bottom of the order is such a refreshing change of pace.

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Posted 21 June 2014 - 01:02 PM

More like unlucky Correia from April. He had an outfielder play a single into a triple, and he wouldn't have scored on Abreu's hit IMO. And Escobar's error has now led to a run and about 15-20 extra pitches thrown. An ugly 15-20 pitches, yes, but they shouldn't have been needed.


Yeah, he's a victim of bad luck. He's also terrible today.