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#1 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:00 PM

You can view the page at http://www.twinsdail...nexes-June-16th

#2 twinsfaninsaudi

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:06 PM

Who is pitching for Rochester on Wednesday and Thursday? I'm in the area and may go to one of the games.

#3 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:19 PM

It was originally Pino (Tues), Meyer (Wed) and Darnell (Thur). Now Gilmartin is pitching Tuesday and the feeling is that everyone is being bumped back a day... and that its possible that Darnell pitches Thursday for the Twins.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:55 PM

Is it possible that Berrios goes up to AA to take Gilmartin's spot in the rotation?

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:20 PM

How does Logan Darnell profile in the majors?

His minor league strike out, walk and ground ball rates suggest that he might be able to develop into a Brian Duensing type career.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 12:13 AM

How does Logan Darnell profile in the majors?

His minor league strike out, walk and ground ball rates suggest that he might be able to develop into a Brian Duensing type career.


That would be a good comp.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 12:25 AM

Is it possible that Berrios goes up to AA to take Gilmartin's spot in the rotation?


Gotta think so, although on the broadcast of Berrios' last Miracle game, the thought from the announcer was that management supposedly would keep Jose with the Miracle in a possible first-half pennant-clinching situation (First half ends on Wednesday) at the very least, before he would move up to New Britain.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:03 AM

Is it possible that Berrios goes up to AA to take Gilmartin's spot in the rotation?


I think Wheeler would be ahead of Berrios in the promotion line, but that's just my opinion.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:20 AM

Sounds like Darnell is replacing Deduno.

I'm a bit higher on Darnell than most in that I think he can be a pretty solid number 3. His K rate has been climbing as he's reached tougher competition, so I'm not sure that using his minor league numbers are appropriate here. The guy can miss some bats. Looking forward to seeing him pitch in MN.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:34 AM

Sounds like Darnell is replacing Deduno.

I'm a bit higher on Darnell than most in that I think he can be a pretty solid number 3. His K rate has been climbing as he's reached tougher competition, so I'm not sure that using his minor league numbers are appropriate here. The guy can miss some bats. Looking forward to seeing him pitch in MN.


Have we gotten any indications on the potential corresponding roster move? I don't think the Twins will try to sneak Deduno through waivers, is there another pitcher who can go down to make sure the Twins can keep Deduno?

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:54 AM

Gotta think so, although on the broadcast of Berrios' last Miracle game, the thought from the announcer was that management supposedly would keep Jose with the Miracle in a possible first-half pennant-clinching situation (First half ends on Wednesday) at the very least, before he would move up to New Britain.


And I think that's only fair. The team works so hard to try to get to the playoffs. What's one more start. I also agree that Wheeler is likely the next in line for promotion.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:10 AM

I think Wheeler would be ahead of Berrios in the promotion line, but that's just my opinion.


Only because this team more often than not promotes based on seniority rather than results. Wheeler is definately deserving of a promotion, but Berrios has been better.

#13 Seth Stohs

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:14 AM

Wheeler is also 3 years older, pitching well and was in Ft. Myers all of last season too. He should move up.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:22 AM

Why is no one complaining about May throwing 120 pitches. That would be a lot for an established pitcher in the MLB. It makes no sense in AAA.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:26 AM

Just guessing here, but I imagine they'll be able to find room in New Britain's rotation for both guys before too awful long.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 07:54 AM

Why is no one complaining about May throwing 120 pitches. That would be a lot for an established pitcher in the MLB. It makes no sense in AAA.

He's a different kind of prospect - he's thrown 150 innings or more the last three seasons. Durability is a big part of his make up. He should be throwing 110 or more pitches at this point. 120 is nothing to get worried about.

Also, he should be called up before Darnell.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:06 AM

Thielbar still has options if they want to bump someone from the bullpen. Otherwise they could just release Jared Burton and keep Deduno.

#18 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:16 AM

Why is no one complaining about May throwing 120 pitches. That would be a lot for an established pitcher in the MLB. It makes no sense in AAA.


Oh, there's hubbub about it. You're just not looking in the right places.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:36 AM

How does Logan Darnell profile in the majors?

His minor league strike out, walk and ground ball rates suggest that he might be able to develop into a Brian Duensing type career.


I think he's a potential innings eating #4 or #5 type, and he could of course move into a long relief LOOGY role if that doesn't stick.

I got a chance to catch his last start. I was along the third base which was not the best view, but he seemed to be going mostly fastball/changeup. His fastball was sitting between 86 and 89 according to the ballpark pitch speed (not sure if there's a bias on it), and I saw him hit as high as 91 a couple times. His changeup seemed to be a bit off that night; it sat around 80 or 81 but he was missing with it a lot and I don't remember seeing a lot of swings and misses on it. I also noticed him mixing in a curveball around 78 mph which was probably his better secondary offering that night. I remember at least one swinging K on the curve (which earned everyone in the stadium a free taco), and the opposing batters didn't seem to be able to get real solid contact on it. He's got a pretty compact delivery and it looks like he hides the ball behind his head until the last moment which could add a little deception.

I personally think he's got the stuff to make a career in the majors, providing decent value filling out the back of a rotation.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 08:38 AM

Thielbar still has options if they want to bump someone from the bullpen. Otherwise they could just release Jared Burton and keep Deduno.


Just in reading the postgame tea leaves, when a reporter was fishing for compliments for Thielbar for striking out the side last night (sandwiches around some control issues and hittability), Gardy didn't offer any sign of recognition for Thielber for "getting after it" or "battiling his tail off", while he made certain to praise Burton for his effort (as rare as it has come this season). But the Twins do need another lefty in the pen.