Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:20 AM
Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:37 AM
Pitch to contact is great if you have good pitchers with good stuff and good control and a good defense... The Twins don't have good pitchers, so pitch-to-contact often becomes batting practice. I think they can all be much better than they have been, but without Good Liriano, and without Scott Baker, it's just scary.
The problem isn't the philosophy of pitch to contact...
Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:50 AM
Posted 04 May 2012 - 08:59 AM
I don't know, it is a site to discuss sports, not airline safety.....maybe we should take it less seriously?
Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:16 AM
Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:03 AM
When I saw the Brackin article, before I even read it, I knew I was going to be in for a little bit of a treat. For a while I read all the comments on Twins articles on that paper as a bit of a guilty pleasure. Eventually it got to be too much to take and I quit. But I knew that article would get some great nonsense going, and it surely didn't disappoint. All of that doesn't really have much to do with what's written here, but here's what does: it reminded me how happy I am to have this site where there are rational thoughts, actual discussion, and even people who can hold more than one thought in their head at one time. I know it's been said elsewhere by others, but thanks to the founders of the site and to the folks that come here to make it an enjoyable place for fandom.
thank you very much for this comment. That is definitely what we want and what we strive for. Obviously we're going to get a few of those irrational thoughts and comments, especially with the Twins playing as they are right now (and have for the past year or so), but I like to think this is a place for some good, intelligent discussion. Thank you!
Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:53 PM
Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:09 PM
throwing filthy pitches with every intention of missing bats.
That's not very sporting. At least the Twins are gentlemen. There should be a push to get back to the Knickerbocker rules of 1845 for every team, not just the Twins, so that all may partake of the Benefits of invigorating Exercise in our Noble Game of Base Ball.
Edited by ashburyjohn, 04 May 2012 - 02:34 PM.
Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:00 PM
Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:23 PM
Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:29 PM
I'll leave with this quote from Bill James "High-strikeout pitchers in today’s game are dramatically more effective than low-strikeout pitchers,".
Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:47 PM
Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:12 AM
Strikeout pitchers, especially flamethrowers, are going to be much more susceptible to injury though, both because of a higher velocity (and often more violent mechanics), and the fact that they're usually going to throw more pitches. You aren't going to strike out 10 guys on 30 pitches, but it's not that unlikely you can get 10 guys to ground out in 30 pitches.
Of course, if we could clone Nolan Ryan...
Do you have any evidence for your injury theory?
Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:31 AM
Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:52 AM
Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:47 AM
Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:36 PM
Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:07 PM
Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:46 PM
That study is here, for those that are interested.
Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:04 PM