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#1 Parker Hageman

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:12 AM

You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.co...uer-s-Struggles

"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -- Jim Bouton, "Ball Four"


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:37 AM

Well, one of the ways to combat this is to hit mistake pitches, I don't know how many times on the 1st and or 2nd pitch, that the ball is in his wheelhouse and he lets it go by..........that has always been disturbing to me, but he has always hit well , so it was no big deal, now that teams are shifting on him, after strike 1 and or strike 2t hey keep hitting the outside forcing him to roll over a grounder or hit into the shift............I think the best remedy to this is to hit on first or second pitches more...........I think most of the bashing is because he shows no emotion and most people feel that showing emotion, is caring, even if not true.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 02:49 AM

It's a GREAT joke....Touchy,huh ?

#4 SarasotaBill

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:23 AM

Adjustments to adjustments.

Mauer needs to make adjustments (get closer to the plate, be more aggressive early in the count, ....) or

Trade him to Boston after the season - (Joe will be tired of the shift if he doesn't adjust).

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:40 AM

I think people try to sell his struggles as just a slow start, but you can see these problems last year. His strike out increased and he could hit with RISP. His average began to drop fast last year:
RISP
2012 .372
2013 .239
2014 .189

As the lineup expectation of Mauer has increased, his production has decreased. Like most hitters, he may only see 1 good pitch an ABnd if it's early in the count, he's likely to take it. Scott Baker threw him a pitch right down the middle his first AB and he just took it. He did it again the second AB, and he drilled a double to right.

I do wish we would get over Mauer hitting .400 in Boston. Just for the record, in 182 AB's, he hitting below his career average in Boston.

#6 Seth Stohs

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 06:12 AM

I think part of the point is that we have seen an attempt to adjust. Parker showed an increase in the number of times he has pulled the ball the last 2 weeks.

I also think he has lost a lot of singles up the middle. You're always taught to hit it back up the middle. Unfortunatel, shortstops are playing him there now too.

#7 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 06:22 AM

Jack Goin and his team shouldn't only analyze free agents. I hope that his team is allowed some leeway to approach subjects like this one.

In a perfect world, he'd have video and spray charts to bring to Mauer and tell him "This is why you're getting killed out there. What are you going to do about it?" Jack can't make the adjustment for Joe but he should be helping him determine the root of the problem and give Joe the information he needs to succeed.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 06:37 AM

This is interesting to juxtapose against Jayson Stark's new article at ESPN: http://espn.go.com/m...t-proof-hitters

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:03 AM

I think he turns this around, but it will take a major adjustment. He needs to start swinging. He is too good to be "this" bad. That said, hasn't it been noted that his LD% is higher than his career this year?

It certainly seems that a lot of balls have been hit really hard, only to find a glove.

#10 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:13 AM

That said, hasn't it been noted that his LD% is higher than his career this year?


Yep. Looking over the stat line, Joe looks just fine from a health perspective. After a rough start, he stopped striking out (8 Ks in past 28 days over 77 PAs). He's lining balls all over the field, posting a LD% of 28.7, a career best.

They're not falling in. That leads me to believe he's getting killed by shifts. Or at the very least, that's a significant part of his problem. He could also being going through an incredible streak of bad luck, though I can't chalk all his struggles off as bad luck.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:17 AM

I found this interesting (from July 2013):
http://blogs.thescor...oach-joe-mauer/

Do you do a lot of video work between games? Joe Mauer - Yeah. I use video daily, usually to go over the opposition starting pitcher just to see some previous at bats I’ve had against him and to see what he’s done lately.

You mention staying true to what got you here. What kind of adjustments are required as you learn the league etc. JM – You’re constantly making adjustments. One of the biggest things is body of work, rather than the amount of work. Used to be able to get into the cage and swing swing swing but now it’s making sure I feel good and head out there, saving some for the game.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:19 AM

In addition, his strikeout rate is up, and his walk rate is down. This is not just about shifts, this is also on Mauer.

#13 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:21 AM

In addition, his strikeout rate is up, and his walk rate is down. This is not just about shifts, this is also on Mauer.


His K % is just over 10% in the past month. The strikeouts were certainly concerning in the early going but he has dropped that number considerably in the past few weeks.

Joe appears to be making adjustments, they're simply not working yet.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:23 AM

In addition, his strikeout rate is up, and his walk rate is down. This is not just about shifts, this is also on Mauer.

True, but it seems--from me watching games--he is getting strikes called where it could be a ball. Again, I have nothing to back this up, but it seems he should have a few more walks, less Ks, strictly from better zone awareness of a few umps.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:27 AM

Sorry, I see this whole effort as a way to excuse him from not producing, blaming the opposition and not taking accountability. That rubs me the wrong way.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :) Also, I am NOT trying to convince anyone I am correct, I'm just talking here, not arguing.


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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:28 AM

I also think that Joe is swinging at worse pitches now later in counts to avoid the squeeze he has been given by some umps. Those bad pitches turn into weak grounders frequently.

#17 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:30 AM

Sorry, I see this whole effort as a way to excuse him from not producing, blaming the opposition and not taking accountability. That rubs me the wrong way.


It's not excuse-making, it's analysis of the situation. No one is saying Mauer's current production level is acceptable but a nuanced breakdown of why this is happening is far more enlightening than "Joe Mauer sucks" or "chicks dig the long ball, Joe".

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:32 AM

Except we left off the whole discussion of ISO, strikeouts, and walks, and only talked about shifts......I know not most will agree, but to me, this is just another example of the Twins and their accountability problems, it is always something oustide their control that causes bad things to happen.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :) Also, I am NOT trying to convince anyone I am correct, I'm just talking here, not arguing.


#19 Brock Beauchamp

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:35 AM

Except we left off the whole discussion of ISO, strikeouts, and walks, and only talked about shifts......I know not most will agree, but to me, this is just another example of the Twins and their accountability problems, it is always something oustide their control that causes bad things to happen.


Well, the shifts *might* be directly linked to that ISO, as evidenced by Joe's career high line drive percentage.

The strikeouts were a huge concern. Thankfully, he's shown recent ability to make better contact (11% K rate over past 28 days).

The base on balls, eh... Hard to say. His ISO D is still decent but he hasn't been taking walks lately. A concern, a change in approach, or both? Hard to say.

This isn't an easy situation to figure out and the answer doesn't appear to be "Joe is cooked" or "swing harder".

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:41 AM

I agree, obviously, that it is not a simple thing to fix or figure out. I don't agree, as the Twins and media seem to be implying, that this is all about other people, and not about the Twins most highly paid, most tenured, player. He needs to adjust, and fix things, or he's pretty much a drain on this roster. He needs to adjust.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :) Also, I am NOT trying to convince anyone I am correct, I'm just talking here, not arguing.