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#1 John Bonnes

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:12 PM

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#2 Paul Pleiss

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:22 PM

I can't get behind Jarod Burton. I think it's time the Twins sent him down and brough up some youth. He might be rebounding from some early season trouble that saw his ERA balloon, but I don't think he's made the switch, at least not for the long term. Cut bait~

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

It was foolish to extend him into this season prior to 2013. They had him under team control through last year. They don't need to extend him.

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:49 PM

I could see the Twins extend him another 2 seasons after this one if he is interested and he remains solid the rest of the season. I don't see a huge offer maybe 5-7 million for 2 seasons tops. I realize we have depth here, but you can never have too much pitching.

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:55 PM

I could see the Twins extend him another 2 seasons after this one if he is interested and he remains solid the rest of the season. I don't see a huge offer maybe 5-7 million for 2 seasons tops. I realize we have depth here, but you can never have too much pitching.


You can have too many mediocre pitchers in decline.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 07:15 AM

I could see the Twins extend him another 2 seasons after this one if he is interested and he remains solid the rest of the season. I don't see a huge offer maybe 5-7 million for 2 seasons tops. I realize we have depth here, but you can never have too much pitching.


Perkins doesn't even make that. Burton, Duensing, & their combined 5 mill will def be off the books next year.

#7 Seth Stohs

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 07:19 AM

Don't extend him, but he's been terrific. He's got a long track record. It's always strange to me how quickly people give up on guys with track record.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:12 AM

Comparing numbers that stabilize at smaller sample, there has been a decline.

2011 K%=22.5% BB%=6.5%
2013 K%=16.3% BB%=11.3%

A decline isn't unusual for a 33 year old reliever with a long track record. The Twins should have anticipated it. You don't get to be a 33 year old reliever without a long track record of good performance.

#9 Shane Wahl

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:46 AM

The best outcome is that he continues to be very good and the Twins can shop him at the deadline (even as "buyers" he would be a likely tradeable asset).

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:37 PM

Today's outing goes to show that you can't just cherry pick stats to make a player look good. Yes, Burton had a nice stretch after an afwul start, but that awful start is part of who he is as a player. And we're seeing him be ineffective again today. Jarod Burton, stick a fork in this guy.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:44 PM

Today's outing goes to show that you can't just cherry pick stats to make a player look good. Yes, Burton had a nice stretch after an awful start, but that awful start is part of who he is as a player. And we're seeing him be ineffective again today. Jared Burton, stick a fork in this guy.


sorry........system error......... the edit created a new post..........

Edited by h2oface, 26 May 2014 - 02:52 PM.


#12 Paul Pleiss

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:48 PM

[h=1]A Lament[/h]By Percy Bysshe Shelley 1792–1822
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:50 PM

Today's outing goes to show that you can't just cherry pick stats to make a player look good. Yes, Burton had a nice stretch after an awful start, but that awful start is part of who he is as a player. And we're seeing him be ineffective again today. Jared Burton, stick a fork in this guy.


The bad luck article?
So true. He was given opportunity after opportunity to reel it in. And things where looking hopeful again and fans were waxing for the return to the season that Burton "earned" his contract. Totally ineffective today, and then allowed to finish the inning. While it is part of a managers job to notice trends and use them, (no, really! I see it all over the league and quickly, just not here) a player doesn't get to throw away parts of his performance that makes him look bad. Yeah...... that happened, too. Today, he was totally hittable, and giving up 3 in the 8th is a recipe for the blowout.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 11:08 PM

Oh, Jarod Burton and the 6+ ERA, he sounds like the right guy to put in against an offense that he surrendered 3+ runs to in his last implosion of an outing... Great work JB!