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#1 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:02 PM

You can view the page at http://www.twinsdail...t-4-Five-for-45

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:08 PM

Not only do I believe a system can never have enough LHPers but that seems to be a strength this year. I have been a huge Marshall/Forrest fan but also wouldn't mind Reed. I'm also very interested in RHPer Spencer Adams but I believe he has pitched himself into the 1st round.

One thing you bring up that is something I have thought about a lot is if the Twins draft a HS player in the first round would they feel comfortable grabbing another one in the 2nd round? A name I believe you (i could be wrong) linked the Twins to earlier in the year was Luke Weaver. He could fit the Ryan Eades role as a once potential top 15 pick college RHPer who fell to the second round. Maybe I'm just over thinking things.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:21 PM

I agree completely. I actually had three more names that took off (because Eight for 45 didn't sound right) and they were: Justus Sheffield, Michael Gettys and Luke Weaver.

I have not been told this, but I believe that the organization would be comfortable taking two preps to start the draft. Two reasons: 1) Crazy HS pitching depth 2) The Twins have more quality arms in the minors than they've ever had before (at least in the last 10-12 years) and can afford to add upside.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:45 PM

I agree completely. I actually had three more names that took off (because Eight for 45 didn't sound right) and they were: Justus Sheffield, Michael Gettys and Luke Weaver.

I have not been told this, but I believe that the organization would be comfortable taking two preps to start the draft. Two reasons: 1) Crazy HS pitching depth 2) The Twins have more quality arms in the minors than they've ever had before (at least in the last 10-12 years) and can afford to add upside.


Seeing how low Weaver has been ranking on lists lately and how high the Twins have been on him, makes me think he is a possibility in the 2nd for the Hometown team.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:25 PM

In 2012, they took Buxton and then followed that with Berrios, so they certainly wouldn't be at all worried about that.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:49 PM

I'd love to see Medeiros fall to the Twins in the 2nd round. BA has him at 35 atm.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 10:58 PM

I agree completely. I actually had three more names that took off (because Eight for 45 didn't sound right) and they were: Justus Sheffield, Michael Gettys and Luke Weaver.

I have not been told this, but I believe that the organization would be comfortable taking two preps to start the draft. Two reasons: 1) Crazy HS pitching depth 2) The Twins have more quality arms in the minors than they've ever had before (at least in the last 10-12 years) and can afford to add upside.


That's great to hear. I would hate for them to skip over talent to have a safer draft. While they did draft two HS players in a row in 2012 they did spend 9 of their next 11 top 10 round picks on college players.

Justus Sheffield seems like a Berrios type pick. Under sized pitcher but big time stuff. Definitely seems like a Twins pick and I wouldn't mind it at all.

As for Gettys he would be the steal of the draft. Would love for him to fall that far but with the lack of quality position players in this draft I feel someone might take a chance on his huge ceiling before we pick again. Doesn't mean I can dream!

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 11:32 PM

2) The Twins have more quality arms in the minors than they've ever had before (at least in the last 10-12 years) and can afford to add upside.


Agree. Which is why I would have no problem with them going crazy on position players and college arms as some good guys might fall as teams try to load up. This draft is an opportunity to get some position players as other team goes for arms

Edited by clutterheart, 14 May 2014 - 11:36 PM.
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#9 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 06:38 AM

I'd love to see Medeiros fall to the Twins in the 2nd round. BA has him at 35 atm.


That would be a steal, but he keeps getting better and better. I could see him continuing to ascend into the middle of the first round.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:31 AM

Here's how mlbpipeline ranks these guys:
Marshall 58
Reed 61
Davis 66
Cederoth 52
Forbes 51

Just for fun, the 2011 draft rankings of our picks were Michael ranked at 31 (they only went 50 deep). In 2012 it was Buxton 1, Berrios 46, Walker 50, Chargois 67, Melatokis 91. Last year it was Stewart 7, Eades 29, Gonzalez 98 in the top 100. That doesn't tell us much other than their lists get a bit crazy pretty quickly. Bobby Wuhl, for instance, was ranked #30 on their list and fell to Oakland in the 5th round.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:40 AM

Right. Signability becomes pretty significant pretty early. I think Wahl was dealing with an arm thing around draft time, and that played into his tumble. (I think... I could be wrong.)

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:51 AM

Reed sounds a lot like Hudson Boyd, which could be a good thing - i.e. the Twins have drafted that body type before, or bad - Boyd has been bad. Marshall sounds intriguing as does Davis.

Twins have been scouting GA like crazy the last few years - I remember reading an article years ago about them wanting to improve scouting in that area and they hired that wonderful scout from Tampa and put Ryan in charge of regional scouting before he came back as GM. So they might really like Marshall. I wonder if Gettys could fall to them? They've also drafted a lot of relief pitchers in the 2nd round under Deron Johnson - maybe Lindgren? I don't think Burdi falls that far but if he did, I think they'd jump on him.

#13 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 08:58 AM

The Twins drafted Burdi out high school.

The scout that's in Georgia is Jack Powell, he drafted Matt Moore (Tampa) and Jose Bautista (Pittsburgh).

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:06 AM

I'd argue that it's possible Fede or Hoffman might be there at 2 as well. I'd say the odds are low, but both being out for TJ along with a few hard to sign HS guys, those are guys I'd think long and hard about grabbing if they had drafted someone like Gordon who may go underslot a bit.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:18 AM

This whole article should have been thrown out. 45? Gimme a break... :D

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:31 AM

This whole article should have been thrown out. 45? Gimme a break... :D


I know this is probably tongue in cheek but ... Jeremy had asked what kind of draft articles we wanted and many of us said we wanted to have better discussions about the possible second round picks. We've already had enough discussion about the first pick. And Jeremy's obviously doing some hardwork to do this so I'm glad he put this out there, even if Marshall isn't our pick.

#17 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:40 AM

This whole article should have been thrown out. 45? Gimme a break... :D


I blame it all on the compensatory picks. Teams slide up, teams slide down. When Kirby did his mock through 45, I was like, "Sweet, Twins..." only to realize they drafted #46. #Brainfart apparently

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:04 PM

Jeremy, what I'd like to see is you start predicting Twins draft picks in rounds 16-25. I'd be okay with you just making up names, as long as they are good baseball names. A prep short stop Sloppy Butterfingers would be a great grab in the 19th round, but they'd likely have to give him some extra dollar bills to keep him from attending Le Cordon Bleu cooking school where he hopes to turn his butter fingers into delicious chocolate chip cookie hands.

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 07:10 PM

Butterfingers has really looked good this spring. He'll probably go in the 12-14 range.

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:20 AM

The Twins like Sloppy Butterfinger's makeup.

#21 Jeremy Nygaard

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:26 AM

The Twins like Sloppy Butterfinger's makeup.


Yeah, but is he versatile? Can he play the OF in a pinch?

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 08:50 PM

Yeah, but is he versatile? Can he play the OF in a pinch?

That's the great thing about shortstop prospects--they can all play the outfield in a pinch.

Jeremy, I'm curious: If the Twins do take Nick Gordon or someone else in the first round that they can sign for underslot, is there any predicting which names might drop due to signability issues that the Twins could then target? Or would that be purely taking shots in the dark, and it all depends on how draft day goes down?

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 08:58 PM

The Twins like Sloppy Butterfinger's makeup.

But how does the ball come out of his hand?