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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:33 AM

http://www.startribu.../257268071.html

LaVelle Neal was able to talk to Eddie Rosario late last week about his 50-game suspension and what he's doing now and going forward. We've all had a lot of questions and this answers some of them.

Hopefully he's learned from his mistakes, but it's good to hear him said, "I miss baseball bad!"

#2 mike wants wins

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:36 AM

Geebers....he smoked a joint and lost a half year or year of baseball. What a screwed up planet......it is OK to throw a baseball at a guy "to teach him a lesson", and potentially injure him, but not OK to smoke a joint. Wow. What a world.

Hopefully they move him to LF, and get him here fast. Between Dozier and Polanco, they look set at 2B (and not so set in the OF, as Hicks continues his slide).

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:43 AM

Here's hoping.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:49 AM

I never have and never will understand why marijuana is a banned substance in professional sports testing.

May as well ban supersized meals and double cheeseburgers while we're at it. It would have lengthened Sidney Ponson's MLB career.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 08:59 AM

I never have and never will understand why marijuana is a banned substance in professional sports testing.

May as well ban supersized meals and double cheeseburgers while we're at it. It would have lengthened Sidney Ponson's MLB career.


One reason is that MJ one of the few drugs that it's really easy to test for.

Do Rockies' prospects and players get a pass on testing now?

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:20 AM

I never have and never will understand why marijuana is a banned substance in professional sports testing.

May as well ban supersized meals and double cheeseburgers while we're at it. It would have lengthened Sidney Ponson's MLB career.


Perhaps this: http://www.popsci.co...rmance-enhancer

But mostly society is likely not ready for our athletes (purported role models) to be sitting around smoking pot in any venue. Hypocritical in relation to alcohol and thickburger abuse, possibly, but if you reasonably (societally) curb bad press in one area of your players personal lives and get away with it, a professional sports organization is going to do it.....possibly any organization.
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#7 Seth Stohs

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:42 AM

I never have and never will understand why marijuana is a banned substance in professional sports testing.


I assume you mean besides 'because it's illegal in 48 states in this country?'

The weird thing is that players on the 40 man roster can't be tested for "Drugs of Abuse" but it is in the minors.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:47 AM

I assume you mean besides 'because it's illegal in 48 states in this country?'

The weird thing is that players on the 40 man roster can't be tested for "Drugs of Abuse" but it is in the minors.


I personally think it should be legal in the US and should not be included in minor league testing. Having said that, it is and Rosario had to know it. I also believe you first get a warning, then a 50 game suspension on your second offense. So it seems wreckless and extremely immature on Rosario's part.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 09:49 AM

I never have and never will understand why marijuana is a banned substance in professional sports testing.

May as well ban supersized meals and double cheeseburgers while we're at it. It would have lengthened Sidney Ponson's MLB career.


I don't understand why the drug is illegal in the first place. Within 10 years, it will be a legal recreational drug across the country, as states replicate CO to close revenue gaps and reduce the burden of MJ on their prison systems (estimated at more than a third of the inmates).

That kind of puts it in context. Yeah it was a 50-game suspension, but thousands of people are serving life sentences for three counts of MJ possession in California alone, where you can buy the stuff in vending machines with a prescription.
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:04 AM

It is illegal to do a lot of things that do not generate 50 game suspensions.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:17 AM

I assume you mean besides 'because it's illegal in 48 states in this country?'

The weird thing is that players on the 40 man roster can't be tested for "Drugs of Abuse" but it is in the minors.


It's illegal to drive past the speed limit but I'm not sure baseball is handing out anything for that.

Out of curiosity...if a 19 year old in a team's farm gets caught underage drinking, does anyone know what the penalty is?

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:18 AM

It is illegal to do a lot of things that do not generate 50 game suspensions.


I understand, but if it is legal, should it trigger a suspension? What if you played for Colorado Springs or Tacoma and tested positive for MJ? You would be getting a suspension for using something you could buy in the corner store.
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 10:23 AM

Frankly, this makes me 100% no longer worried about his future. Move him to LF, and get him up here this year. I will be bummed if he is playing 2B this year....Dozier is set, and Polanco can come up in 2 years.....

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:10 AM

It's illegal to drive past the speed limit but I'm not sure baseball is handing out anything for that.

Out of curiosity...if a 19 year old in a team's farm gets caught underage drinking, does anyone know what the penalty is?


Speculating, probably an embarrassing headline ina paper nobody will read like the Cedar Rapids chronicle or Rochester Gazette.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:36 AM

I personally think it should be legal in the US and should not be included in minor league testing. Having said that, it is and Rosario had to know it. I also believe you first get a warning, then a 50 game suspension on your second offense. So it seems wreckless and extremely immature on Rosario's part.


Yup. Regardless of which side of the pot issue you fall on, if the guys who you are trying to get a million dollar paycheck from tell you not to do it, well it's your own damn fault if you disregard their warning.

I'm mostly in favor of legalizing it, but the continued drug failures of these professional athletes who face losing millions of dollars if they use it really does point to an addiction problem with weed. Ruining your career and losing a boatload of money because you can't resist speaks of a pretty bad problem.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:42 AM

Or, that he tried it once......we have no idea how much anyone has used if they fail a test. I don't think it shows addiction at all to fail one test.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:49 AM

MLB is hardly the only employer to test for THC. Its their prerogative. And it makes perfect sense from a productivity angle IMO.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

Or, that he tried it once......we have no idea how much anyone has used if they fail a test. I don't think it shows addiction at all to fail one test.



He failed two, the first is a warning.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 11:52 AM

Yup. Regardless of which side of the pot issue you fall on, if the guys who you are trying to get a million dollar paycheck from tell you not to do it, well it's your own damn fault if you disregard their warning.

I'm mostly in favor of legalizing it, but the continued drug failures of these professional athletes who face losing millions of dollars if they use it really does point to an addiction problem with weed. Ruining your career and losing a boatload of money because you can't resist speaks of a pretty bad problem.


I agree that it is incredibly stupid to do something the league tests for, legal or not. But I don't think it means anything in particular beyond stupidity. Perhaps he thought he wouldn't get caught. Perhaps he was out with friends and they offered and he accepted without thinking about the consequences. Speaking of which, I've heard of guys testing positive after just being in a car with guys smoking, without actually partaking themselves. (At least that's what they said.) (Also, Clinton didn't inhale.) I can think of myriad ways this mistake can manifest itself with a player. The important thing is he accepts his mistake and I have 99% confidence that he'll never do it again (at least until he's on the 40-man).
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:03 PM

I never have and never will understand why marijuana is a banned substance in professional sports testing.

May as well ban supersized meals and double cheeseburgers while we're at it. It would have lengthened Sidney Ponson's MLB career.


But can't you see that marijuana is a gateway drug!?

First the pot, then the cheeseburgers, then the supersized meals - it's the first step on a path to ruin! Won't somebody please think of the pitchers!