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#61 TheLeviathan

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:38 PM

Are the Wild going to even bother making a run at Vanek this offseason now? What seemed like a shoe in, really doesn't seem like it anymore.


I wouldn't, put that money into another defenseman. You're right, I totally forgot about Nino who is a player I'm already becoming a huge fan of.

This team has a ton of exciting young talent.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 07:41 PM

Also, I think I officially have a hockey crush on Haula. My god that kid plays a fun style.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 04:59 AM

I wouldn't, put that money into another defenseman. You're right, I totally forgot about Nino who is a player I'm already becoming a huge fan of.

This team has a ton of exciting young talent.


They need another scorer if they're going to make the jump into an elite team though IMO. The young guys have made enormous strides since the Olympic break, but they really haven't shown that they can score. I dunno. I'd feel better with a guy like Ryan Callahan than Vanek. Vanek just worries me because of a possible bidding war and the length of contract he'll likely get. Still relatively young though.

Think they need a defenseman with dumba as a prospect? I don't really think so.

They're definitely going to have huge money to spend!

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:26 AM

They need another scorer if they're going to make the jump into an elite team though IMO. The young guys have made enormous strides since the Olympic break, but they really haven't shown that they can score. I dunno. I'd feel better with a guy like Ryan Callahan than Vanek. Vanek just worries me because of a possible bidding war and the length of contract he'll likely get. Still relatively young though.

Think they need a defenseman with dumba as a prospect? I don't really think so.

They're definitely going to have huge money to spend!


Callahan really isn't a scorer though either. You're right that they need more finishers, but 8 of the top 9 forwards look pretty locked in to me:

C - Granlund, Haula, Koivu
Wings - Parise, Pominville, Coyle, Nino, Cooke

So there is probably room for a winger. I'd like to see them add another rugged defenseman that would allow them to use Spurgeon more selectively.

Either way the FA class doesn't look stupendous. I'm guessing a trade is the way they go.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 09:26 AM

I would stay away from Callahan, he is going to break down sooner rather than later, if you could get him for 3 years or so, yeah go for it, but the Rangers or some other team will be dumb enough to give him 6+ years.

Vanek sounds intriguing, but I don't know if handing out a huge contract is the best thing to do. You could always bring Gaborik back, but not sure if that makes sense. Moulson could be interesting to keep around, he has laid a turd in the playoffs but apparently he was playing through injury, maybe you bring him back as a scorer and give him far less years/money then Vanek.

Defense should be fine, I really think they are solid from top to bottom there. Goalie is going to be a big concern moving forward, at this point there is nothing but question marks:
Harding- Great goalie, zero reliability health wise.
Backstrom- Broken down? Good goalie when healthy.
Keumper- Inconsistent- Has the size though, but also...health!
Brzgalov- I dunno.

They have some depth and could always try to make some trades as well, Phil Kessel would look nice in a Wild uniform, and the Laffs may be dumb enough to trade him away without robbing us too much of our youth.

Either way, the Wild, no matter what happens the rest of this series look primed to make a really nice run in the coming years.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 10:26 AM

Moulson (and Vanek for that matter) don't skate well enough to fit this team. Gaborik may actually fit for that but he'd be in the dog house for his defense in no time.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 07:29 PM

Rumors are Phaneuf hits the block this offseason. He's a Cooke-type punk but a damn skilled one.

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Posted 12 May 2014 - 08:57 PM

Rumors are Phaneuf hits the block this offseason. He's a Cooke-type punk but a damn skilled one.


Big cap hit for a second pairing defenseman. As long as you don't use him like Toronto does he could be a good addition, shouldn't play the minutes he does in Toronto and not against the top line. Has to be paired with a guy who actually plays defense with some intelligence, if so his offensive skills are a plus, although he's not nearly as good a skater as people seem to think he is. 7/49 is a big price for Phaneuf IMO.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:13 AM

Rumors are Phaneuf hits the block this offseason. He's a Cooke-type punk but a damn skilled one.


No way, costs way to much money.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:34 AM

No way, costs way to much money.


To be frank, you've gotta get over that. Ryan Miller is going to make a boatload and be overpaid. The key is not to focus on the money but on the skill fit. Maybe Phaneuf isn't that, but I can tell you that of the 10-12M the Wild have to play with they WILL overpay someone. And with this FA group that isn't going to be pretty.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 12:39 PM

I don't even think Paneuf is a very good player, this team is pretty solid on defense with all the young talent etc. What they lack now is a scorer IMHO

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 03:36 PM

Get former UMD grad Matt Niskanen as well as Jonas Hiller, take your chances up front. Vanek would be nice but you need better movement from the back end.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 04:19 PM

I don't even think Paneuf is a very good player, this team is pretty solid on defense with all the young talent etc. What they lack now is a scorer IMHO


This team isn't that solid on defense. Is Dumba possibly an answer to that? Sure, he might be. But right now Stoner-Prosser is not a particularly good third pair. I'd like to see the team add a physical defenseman to the mix and let Dumba get a slot over one of those two. Then Stoner moves into the role of being a swing player for injuries.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 05:20 PM

Phaneuf is not that guy.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 06:36 PM

Phaneuf is not that guy.


Maybe not, but the pickings look to be slim this offseason.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 09:54 PM

Maybe not, but the pickings look to be slim this offseason.



True, lot of old guys who would be better deadline pickups if you needed a specialist.

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Posted 13 May 2014 - 10:48 PM

Good battle by the Wild, crappy bounce, they deserved a better fate. Lack of finish and a dormant PP cost them in the end, Crawford was pretty steady.

Not looking forward to being in the same division as this team in the next few years.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:36 AM

So, I'm thinking they're going to be trading for a forward - Bob Ryan?, and signing a defenseman - Matt Niskanen.

I don't think Vanek is the guy, unless they could get him for 3 or so years.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 08:20 AM

BRUTAL way to lose last night. However, gotta be pumped moving forward, we took the champs to the brink and this series could have very easily went the other way.

I'd still prefer to trade for Kessel. Vanek and Moulson both have their worts, but if it came down to it maybe Moulson would be a better value as we wouldn't have to give him too many years. We already have Koivu-Suter-Parise-Pominville under big contracts, need to have some flexibility moving forward to lock up key guys like Granlund etc

Also, I wonder if it would be worth shopping Koivu (who I still think is very great) however if you can get a scorer and another blue liner for him I think you have to consider it. Especially since it looks like Granlund could easily be a number 1 center, and Coyle/Haula can be your 2/3.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 03:58 PM

Also, I wonder if it would be worth shopping Koivu (who I still think is very great) however if you can get a scorer and another blue liner for him I think you have to consider it. Especially since it looks like Granlund could easily be a number 1 center, and Coyle/Haula can be your 2/3.


Here's a crazy idea:

Koivu, Zucker, and a pick to Vancouver for Kesler?

Right handed shot, good defender, better skater, better scorer. He'd make a good fit and there would no longer be a pressure to treat anyone other than Granlund as the top centerman. (Like, say, putting Koivu on the powerplay....constantly....*puke*)

Also, on Kessel - not a good skater. I think I'd rather them look at a guy like Cammalleri who has some position flexibility.