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Is Joe Mauer still considered a potential Hall of Famer?

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#1 drock2190

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:12 PM

I think he's a good player but moving to 1st base (good for longevity) hurts his case, doesn't it?

Not to mention, his strikeout rate has been increasing the past few years with last year almost a 4% increase (17.5%). Dan Gladden was saying the other day on the radio, Mauer hardly strikes out. A few years ago, I would have agreed with that statement though.

So what do you guys think, is his star fading?

Edited by ashburyjohn, 07 April 2014 - 05:37 PM.
Fix the title per OP's request


#2 drock2190

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:14 PM

Title is incorrect, ugh. Don't know how to change it.

#3 Winston Smith

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:16 PM

A little work left to do, imo.

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#4 Shane Wahl

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:19 PM

It's hardly debatable, barring a complete collapse.

#5 Hosken Bombo Disco

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:26 PM

Take a deep breath, drock :)

Mauer will get it figured out soon enough.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:37 PM

Title is incorrect, ugh. Don't know how to change it.

Is the title as you want it now?

'The biggest communication problem is that we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply.' Sometimes on here I think this could be stated as 'The biggest communication problem is that we do not read to understand. We read to reply.'


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:38 PM

Is the title as you want it now?


I just changed it to remove the 's.

#8 ChiTownTwinsFan

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:42 PM

I just changed it to remove the 's.

Um. I did. Heh. Guess we both did

'The biggest communication problem is that we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply.' Sometimes on here I think this could be stated as 'The biggest communication problem is that we do not read to understand. We read to reply.'


#9 ashburyjohn

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:52 PM

Don't know how to change it.


As for this part of your post... I think you should be able to click Edit Post, and then click Go Advanced. On that screen, the title is editable. (Unless it's a moderator-only function but I doubt it.)

#10 raindog

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 05:58 PM

He's clearly a "potential" HoFer. He's a near lock unless his career somehow collapses.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 06:02 PM

If he plays 150+ games a year for the remainder of his contract around his career average, it won't matter what position it's at. He'll be in, although maybe not first ballot.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 07:28 PM

There are 16 catchers in the hall of fame. He is somewhere between 5-8 in value right now.
All he is doing is padding stats at this point. He is almost assuredly in, first ballot or not.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 07:42 PM

Look, I'm as concerned as anybody after the first handful of games. Lots of un-Mauer-like swings.

But the answer to your question is yes.

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 07:49 PM

I'd like to think that Mauer is destined to be elected to the NBHOF, but I am from St. Paul and I am a Homer for my City Brethren. A few more .330+BA and .900OPS seasons would not hurt in sealing the deal, and of course, playing a mean 1B.

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.


#15 pierre75275

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 08:02 PM

I think so bc even tho nobody here generally associates longevity with Mauer i still cant see him not getting 3000 hits

#16 EephusKnuckler

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 08:32 PM

I think he's a good player but moving to 1st base (good for longevity) hurts his case, doesn't it?


That's really the meat of this discussion now. There's the idea out there that if Joe doesn't turn into a typical slugging firstbaseman that he's somehow taken a step back. Nonsense. If he keeps doing what he's always done I think he's a shoe-in for the HOF. The numbers are there, regardless of what people's expectations are.

Having said that...I'd be lying if said I haven't had dreams of Joe turning into just such a power-bat 1B. He might do it, too. He's not gonna be a guy who launches 30-40 bombs a year but it's not far fetched to think he could manage around 20 per season. It would just most likely come with a noticeable dip in BA/OBP.

Edited by EephusKnuckler, 07 April 2014 - 08:35 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2014 - 10:07 PM

Before today's performance I would argue he is one of the best 3 catchers to have ever played the game, but after today I think its safe to say he ranks somewhere between Junior Ortiz and Juan Castro in terms of HOF worthyness.
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#18 Jdosen

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 10:14 PM

He won multiple (I think) Gold Gloves behind the plate, an MVP, and carries a career .404 OBP while playing the most physically demanding position in baseball. If he's not, I'll care even less about the HOF than I do now.
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#19 twinsnorth49

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 10:40 PM

I think he gets in, as long as he continues his career averages for the most part. Question is, does it really matter that much?

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:47 AM

Mauer has the 3rd highest career OPS of catchers through his 10 year career. If you go by career WAR he is the 12th best catcher already, and his 7 year peak 5th overall, behind Gary Carter, Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza and Ivan Rodriguez. All of whom are or will be in the HOF. He has an outside chance this year to pass Pudge in the WAR-7 peak this year if Mauer can put up all-star caliber numbers. Mauer might not be a 1st ballot HOF, but he'll get in.