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Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:21 PM
Decision #1--rebuild by giving players experience NOW--recall Dozier, Benson, Diamond, dump Burroughs, and Gray and Maloney (my choice--definitely two of the bullpen). Play Dozier at SS, Parmalee at 1B, Willingham in LF, Benson in CF and Span in RF (Revere as 4th OF). Put Diamond in rotation and Liriano in pen. Decsion #2--(doesnt fit your scenario)--in June trade Span or Benson with somebody (Valencia??) for good number 2 starter say Jordan Zimmerman of Nats. Decision #3--pick up free agent starter like Oswalt.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:43 PM
Parmalee to AAA, Burroughs gone, bring up Dozier and Benson, Clete Thomas gone. Okay, that takes care of my first wish... ;-) Maloney gone, Gray gone, Slama up, Diamond up. Two... Butera up. Grrr. Plus 150 points on his batting average. This is fantasy, after all. Three.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:44 PM
The build it for next year plan. [#1] Give Joe Maurer, Danny Valencia, and Clete Thomas their unconditional release. (when someone, somewhere picks up and renegotiates Joe's contract to market value, use the $23M next year to sign 2 free agent starters to 3-4yr $10M deals. Call up Brian Dozier, Drew Butera, and Joe Benson. [#2] Trade Span for the best young serviceable starter or reliever available. (release Jeff Gray, call up Ben Revere). [#3] Move Brian Duensing back to the rotation and develop a pitch to deal with RH batters.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:59 PM
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1) Kangaroo court Joe Mauer for every first-pitch strike he takes. Not because it makes him a bad hitter, it's because we have enough table setters, and he's the one on this team who can best adjust his game. (I may have said this already somewhere.)
2) Get Liriano drunk, laid, hypnotized, whatever it takes to get his mind completely on something else, and see if that helps hit the catcher's mitt.
3) Bring up Darin Mastroianni. He's my adoptee, I am legally required to advocate this.
Edited by ashburyjohn, 27 April 2012 - 01:04 PM.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:02 PM
If you're going to truly commit to a rebuilding year then I agree with most others. 1. Get rid of Burroughs and Thomas for sure. Bring up Dozier and Benson. 2. I'd like to trade Valencia along with maybe some other to get a starting pitcher, but who would play 3rd? If only Miguel Sano were ready... 3. Lirano to a back, dark corner of the bull pen. Put Swarzak back in the rotation. Oh and make Perkins the closer!
Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:21 PM
I'm all for the rebuilding mode that others have indicated... but it's because of that that I actually send those future building blocks down... let them get their final AAA at bats in until guys get traded/released in July/August. The rebuilding with the young guys is likely to take all of 2013 as well so no need to rush the young guys... especially those advocating Benson coming up right now... when he's hitting about .170. I keep guys like Thomas and Gray and Maloney because they are stop gaps who can just get you to the time when the prospects are ready.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:23 PM
Other than your decision #1 (and with only the Butera part), I have no problem. 3 wishes and cannot fire Gardy... hmmm... Can I fire Rantz? or make him retire at least? Ok. Here are my 3 wishes: #1 Cannot fire Gardy or Ryan, but do a massive upgrade in Twins' coaching staff (no restriction for that ) : I hand Stevie, Liddly, Andy and Vavry their walking papers and replace them with Tom Brunansky as the hitting coach, Bobby Cuellar as the pitching coach, Jake Mauer as the third base coach and hire a veteran like Terry Francona as the bench coach or make Molitor or Kelly do it. Because, this is the Twins and gotta be Minnesota nice, I give Andy and Vavry the option to be the pitching and hitting coaches at Rochester and Stevie to realize his live long dream and manager the Miracle. As far as Liddly goes, he has the option to run the EST program. Jerry White stays. #2 Trade Carl Pavano, Denard Span, Aaron Hicks, Drew Butera and Matt Capps to the Philies for Tyler Cloyd, Trevor May, Domonic Brown, and Michael Stutes (pretty fair trade for both teams at this point, and if I'd trade with someone, might as well trade with my home team ) #3 Option Parmelee, Hendriks, Burnett; DFA Gray, Maloney, Thomas, Burroughs; Recall Cole Devries, Anthony Slama, Aaron Bates, Rene Rivera, Brian Dozier ; need 1 extra 40-man spot: remove Nishioka from the 40-man roster and prey he is claimed or quits. Rotation: Tyler Cloyd, Fransico Liriano, Trevor May, Anthony Swarzak, Jason Marquis pen: Glen Perkins, Michael Stutes, Jared Burton, Nick Blackburn, Brian Duensing, Anthony Slama, Cole DeVries, Starters: Mauer C, Morneau/Bates 1B, Casilla 2B, Dozier SS, Valencia 3B, Brown RF, Revere, CF, Willingham LF, Doumit/Morneau DH Bench: Plouffe(OF/IF), Carroll (IF super sub), Rivera (Liriano's personal Catcher), Bates (1B/OF)
Edited by Thrylos, 27 April 2012 - 01:45 PM.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:43 PM
If I cannot fire Gardy or Ryan the wishes really dont do any good so I would wish the following: 1. I would give Terry Ryan a brain transplant from anyone who has even a limited knowlege of meaningful statistical anaysis and sabermetrics. It would be great to have a gm that does not put a high value on rbi. , pitcher wins, or the famous proven closer mantra. 2. For my second wish I would give Gardy a skin transplant. Gardy cant deal with controversy or players who dispute his hit it the other way and throw it over the plate strategy. With thicker skin he wouldnt ruin or run off so many good players. 3. For my last wish I would like my new-brained gm to find another gm to take on Mauers albatross contract for essentially nothing. The return is irrelevant as long as the contract is off the books. The contract looks like the worst in baseball now, wait a few years when Joe is a 5 homer. 280 hitting 1b playing well below replacement level! The contract is going to kill the franchise unless he is dealt.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:45 PM
Because you are such a big Twins fan, your first wish is to become the GM AND Manager of the Minnesota Twins for one day. Voila!
I initially thought this was a typo because I thought, Yes! absolutely right, vintage Frank Viola would absolutely be my first wish.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:53 PM
I don't have to develop 3 scenarios. I really like what DAM dc twins fans has put forth. The only thing that worry about is that Benson doesn't develop. He reminds me of a great athlete who has all the tools but has trouble with the game. Hope I'm wrong on that one. However, in relation to number 2 I would include Benson with Spann in the trade group with Valencia starting in July. Disagree with Diamond---too soft of a tosser---not a Whitey Ford!! However, good analysis---wish the Twins would listen!
Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:14 PM
I'll play armchair GM.... #1: Trade Span, Pavano and Capps to the Angels for Mark Trumbo and Garrett Richards #2: DFA Burroughs, Gray and Maloney to call up DeVries, Slama and Holliman #3: Make Perkins the closer Which would make the roster look like: Rotation: Marquis, Hendricks, Swarzak, Blackburn, Richards Bullpen: Duensing, Slama, Burton, Perkins, Liriano, Burnett, DeVries Catcher: Mauer, Doumit First Base: Parmalee, Doumit Second Base: Casilla Shortstop: Carroll Third Base: Valencia Outfield: Willingham, Revere, Trumbo DH: Morneau Bench: Thomas, Plouffe, Holliman Which would make the every day lineup: CF Revere SS Caroll C Mauer LF Willingham DH Morneau RF Trumbo 1B Doumit 3B Valencia 2B Casilla
Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:16 PM
I wouldn't change a thing. My wish would be to have them continue to run it into the ground with their pitch-to-contact, go-the-other-way nonsense. Then, after the carnage of another 90 plus loss season, maybe I'll get my real wish that the OP won't allow: new leadership in the front office and in the dugout...
Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:42 PM
[#1] Give Joe Maurer, Danny Valencia, and Clete Thomas their unconditional release. (when someone, somewhere picks up and renegotiates Joe's contract to market value, use the $23M next year to sign 2 free agent starters to 3-4yr $10M deals. Call up Brian Dozier, Drew Butera, and Joe Benson.
If the Twins release mauer (which they wouldn't), they would still pay him the $23M for the next 7 years. So there woudln't be some additional money.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:45 PM
#1 Deal Span to WAS for Jordan Zimmerman--Straight up.....throw 2 or 3 mid lvl prospect at them to get it done if needed. #2 Trade the likes of Revere, Arica, and Hicks to a team(s) with top lvl pitching prospects. The club needs high end SP not a ton OF's. Trade a strength for a weakness. Make sense right?? (possible trade candidates ATL, TOR, OAK, TB, KC, PIT, SF and WAS) #3 Fire Varva!!!!!!!! Get a hitting coach that will kick MAUER in the a$$ and teach him to use the power that we all know is there. Fire Liddle as well.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:52 PM
I love this idea first off. #1 I would pull a Billy Beane move and just tell what Gardy has to do going forward and that is this. I would set the lineup Span Mauer Willingham Morneau Doumit Parmalee Valencia ( we will talk about this in a bit) Plouffe, when we send down Valencia. Carroll Casilla #2 I would eliminate the "closer" and close every game by committee. Like I have said before, "closers" are overrated unless you are Mariano Rivera, Dennis Eckersley, Bobby Thigpen, Joe Nathan-- These guys were really good, and yes there are more I am missing, but you can maybe count on 10 fingers a really good "closer". #3 I would send Valencia down, cut Burroughs, sign Inge, use Inge as an emergency catcher, allow Mauer, Doumit to be in the lineup every day. #4 Give Liriano a chance to throw some shutout innings in the bullpen to get some confidence back. Then try and get him back in the lineup.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:52 PM
Right now, I don't think I'd do anything. As disappointing and frustrating as it is to only have 5 wins, April is too early to start blowing this thing up, and panic moves do not tend to translate into long-term improvement. Let's see where things are in mid-June. We aren't at a point in the season where teams are a lot of other teams are looking to deal. I think there will be more potential trade partners in June and July.
Posted 27 April 2012 - 03:15 PM
1) DFA Gray, add Slama to take his spot in the bullpen, promote Deolis Guerra to take Slama's spot at Rochester. 2) Trade Revere to the Rays for RHP Alex Cobb. Give Cobb Hendriks' spot in the rotation and send Liam back to AAA. Release Brendan Wise to make room for Hendriks and send Daryl Thompson to the bullpen. 3) Decline Scott Baker's $9.25M option for 2013 and resign him to a 1-year, $5M contract with a $9.25M option for 2014. This is basically a do-over of the final year of his deal, prorated for an anticipated mid-May return from TJS rehab. He can earn a $200K bonus for every GS over 25, in case he gets back into shape early. That sets the Twins up for an eventual 2013 rotation of (#1 starter), Baker, Cobb, Hendriks, & Blackburn at a total cost of $11.5M. That leaves plenty of room in the budget to bid heavily on one of the available front-of-the-rotation FA next offseason. Yes, TR, you can afford Greinke!
Posted 27 April 2012 - 04:06 PM
For those of you completely sold on this being a rebuilding year: 1) Trade Justin Morneau to any team that will take him with his salary in full for pitching prospects (poor as they will probably be). The same for Pavano, Liriano, Marquis, Carroll, and any reliever except Perkins. 2) Resist the urge to call up any prospect until they are ready. Let them earn their chops in the minors without wasting service time in the majors. Fill all holes with cheap, replacement level players. 3) Take out a full page ad in the papers reminding all Twins fans what Gardy and Ryan have done for the Twins during their time here. Tell the fans to lay off Gardy and Ryan for at least 18-24 months to see if they can re-right the ship. Also remind them that any regime change will still be bound by the rules the Pohlads lay out, and if Ryan/Gardy are replaced, it might be Bill Smith all over again (or worse).
Posted 28 April 2012 - 12:02 AM
What's everybody's problem with Jeff Gray? Are we looking at the same stats, or do people want to see him gone before he regresses to his career norms? His current BABIP is unsustainable at .185, but we have a bullpen full of replacement-level pitchers. What makes Gray so much worse than the others?
Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:15 AM
1. Minor League Arrangement Changes. Promote Sano and Rosario to High A Fort Myers. Deolis Guerra to AAA. Angel Mata to Beloit. Diamond recall and Devries promotion to MLB club. Swarzak optioned and Maloney placed on waivers. 2. Fire the training staff and hire a new one. 3. If I can't fire Gardy can I trade him? A la Ozzie Guillen?
Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:38 AM
I love this idea first off.
#1 I would pull a Billy Beane move and just tell what Gardy has to do going forward and that is this.
I would set the lineup
Valencia ( we will talk about this in a bit) Plouffe, when we send down Valencia.
#2 I would eliminate the "closer" and close every game by committee. Like I have said before, "closers" are overrated unless you are Mariano Rivera, Dennis Eckersley, Bobby Thigpen, Joe Nathan-- These guys were really good, and yes there are more I am missing, but you can maybe count on 10 fingers a really good "closer".
#3 I would send Valencia down, cut Burroughs, sign Inge, use Inge as an emergency catcher, allow Mauer, Doumit to be in the lineup every day.
#4 Give Liriano a chance to throw some shutout innings in the bullpen to get some confidence back. Then try and get him back in the lineup.
I like your closer by committee approach. Between Perkins, Burton, and Capps. It gives us a little more flexibilty.
Posted 28 April 2012 - 12:49 PM
My previous three wishes have not been granted. I want a mulligan. 1. Drop the AAA affiliate in Rochester, choose Washington DC instead. 2. Promote pitchers Strasburg, Gonzalez, Zimmerman, Detwiler, Jackson, Rodriguez, and batters Harper and Ramos (the latter just because). 3. Profit!