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    Fans of other teams thank TR for the Pelfrey signing!

    I just posted a report on how other teams are reacting to the Pelfrey signing:

    http://smartpitcher.blogspot.com/201...-to-thank.html
    Works on contingency? No, money down!
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    His work rate is nauseating.

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    He's not the worst pitcher I've ever watched, but I hate watching him more than any other pitcher I've ever watched.
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    Why in the world do we want him pitching for us next year? We could have a AAA scrub throw for a 5.00 ERA for a dime, but now, Pelfrey pitches for $6M in 2015. He will improve off of last year, but really... the only potential he has is if he has a good first half and we trade him for something.

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    Dont understand the pelfrey hate. He's a solid #4 and he'll be much improved from last year. Now sign garza!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marta Shearing View Post
    Dont understand the pelfrey hate. He's a solid #4 and he'll be much improved from last year. Now sign garza!
    The hate and dislike comes from his pitching pace. Paint dries at a faster than Pelfrey pitches.

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    I don't hate it, but if his signing means we don't get Garza or Arroyo I'm not a fan. Even when he's pitching 'well' he's a human rain delay, which I think explains some of the hate.

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    I think that if the Twins do sign another pitcher, then Correia or others become trade material. There are teams looking for 4th and 5th starters who do not want to pay free agent prices. The Twins could pull in some possible prospect talent to augment their free agent investments.

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    thanks Brad , funny read

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    Great entry! It made me laugh through the pain. Living in the LA area now…. at least I get to see some real pitching at Dodger Stadium. The only thing I can add is…… Twins' starters will be all right. Not all right, but all right….. and since I lean toward the left, it is not good news to me.

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    Pelfrey's remaining upside is replacement level pitcher. Those can be had for 500K.

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    So I click on the link above and get a few chuckles. Then I click on a couple other articles off in the margin and discover I've stumbled upon a goldmine. Well, not really, but it is some pretty good reading by my standards anyway. Accolades to you, Brad!

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    Pelfrey is a solid 3rd pick up. IMO the two most likely bounce back candidates next season are Pelfrey and Gibson. Our plan B rotation of Diamond, Worley, Denuno, and Johnson is no worse than our starting 5 last year. Our starting rotation has gone from the worst in baseball to not so good, and is well positioned to be average by the start of 2015.
    Last edited by howieramone; 12-15-2013 at 02:53 AM.

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    Threads like this make me go back to John Bonnes' article on the truth.

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    Great post Chad. Your publicity, as I hear, has resulted in a second signing for Pelfrey. Chapstik has reportedly offered him a 2 year promotional gig...

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    Laughed my butt off! That poster of Ryan in "the add" reminded me of so may posts I've read in TD​.

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    I don't get the hate. He very clearly improved as his season went on, and given that this was his first year back from TJ this was to be expected; he had a pretty good season. As the 3rd pickup, this isn't bad at all.

    Look at his splits:

    By Day/Month ERA W L SV SVO GP GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
    April 7.66 2 3 0 0 5 5 0 22.1 36 21 19 2 7 7 .356
    May 5.90 1 3 0 0 6 6 0 29.0 36 19 19 4 12 19 .310
    June 4.66 0 0 0 0 3 3 0 19.1 22 10 10 1 2 12 .293
    July 3.25 1 3 0 0 5 5 0 27.2 28 10 10 3 9 21 .267
    August 3.60 1 1 0 0 6 6 0 35.0 33 15 14 2 16 22 .252
    September 7.45 0 3 0 0 4 4 0 19.1 29 17 16 1 7 20 .341

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
    I don't get the hate. He very clearly improved as his season went on, and given that this was his first year back from TJ this was to be expected; he had a pretty good season. As the 3rd pickup, this isn't bad at all.

    Look at his splits:

    By Day/Month ERA W L SV SVO GP GS CG IP H R ER HR BB SO AVG
    April 7.66 2 3 0 0 5 5 0 22.1 36 21 19 2 7 7 .356
    May 5.90 1 3 0 0 6 6 0 29.0 36 19 19 4 12 19 .310
    June 4.66 0 0 0 0 3 3 0 19.1 22 10 10 1 2 12 .293
    July 3.25 1 3 0 0 5 5 0 27.2 28 10 10 3 9 21 .267
    August 3.60 1 1 0 0 6 6 0 35.0 33 15 14 2 16 22 .252
    September 7.45 0 3 0 0 4 4 0 19.1 29 17 16 1 7 20 .341
    How about:

    Month Inn/game

    April 4.42
    May 4.83
    June 6.37
    July 5.44
    August 5.83
    September 4.78

    So, a 5 innings/game SP was signed for ~$5.5MM/year. Did his contract include a RP to get his starts through 7 innings? If Pelfrey is an "innings-eater", he must be on The South Beach Diet​.
    Last edited by Kwak; 12-15-2013 at 09:27 AM.

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    I get the hate. He was a major part of the worst pitching staff in baseball last year. The thing that most seem to discount is that we just got his worst year. Most guys coming off of TJ (baker) wouldn't have pitched until August. With a full season of conditioning and more time post TJ, I expect Pelfrey to post a sub 5 ERA and that is a still at only 5.5 million. He won't be our ace, but then again we probably won't have an ace in 2014.

    I think Terry deserves a lot of credit. He swallowed his pride, signed a bunch of average starting pitchers for more than he thought they were worth, but he signed them none the less. The team they put on the field will have a change to win every day. I doubt they will finish above .500, but the starting pitching will give us a chance to win. That was not the case the last two seasons.

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    Sign a real starting pitcher, not average pitchers.

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