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    Quote Originally Posted by InfraRen View Post
    I think this could prove to be a value signing. Lots of positives about him. Seems like a smart dude with a strong work ethic. Wonder if it's something about NYY with these 1st round pitchers. Joba didn't pan out. Hughes hasn't. Ian Kennedy figured it out AFTER he left NYY. Let's hope!
    To be fair, Kennedy started 12 games for NYY at ages 22-23, then basically missed his entire age 24 season with injury, and was then traded. He really didn't have much of a performance to turn around, frankly.

    It will be interesting to see what Hughes and Chamberlain do this season, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    The main indictment hanging over this offseason is of those Twins fans in their current state of Transient Global Amnesia regarding their past blind defense and creative excuse-making concerning the 3 year debacle of a Twins organization and ownership readily unwilling and/or in denial on the need to aggressively address their systemic personnel needs. Had more of these fans joined the rest of us in demanding that Pohlad, et al, be held accountable after Year One of the Debacle, it's now fairly obvious that what's currently happening this offseason could have been put in place in the fall of 2011, or 2012. The only thing aggressive about the Twins' approach until this offseason was in how much they could cut payroll- and many praised their "prudency". The rebuild could have been a more proactive revamp/reload/sign-and-flip process, instead, putting the Twins 2 years closer to a return to relevancy. I think the organization has finally gotten the message- better late than never- and no thanks to complacent and complicit ticket-buying fans- there are other organizational models that have demonstrated that sitting on your hands and dumpster diving is less prudent than spending available monies on acquiring actual talent on reasonable terms.
    Um... No?

    I don't think this could have been put in place in 2011. For one, there was no reason to think they'd be that bad after heading to the playoffs in 2010. You can make that case in 2012, but I also think you'd have reason to think there could be some bounce backs... 2013 is the point where it was clear things needed to change, and Ryan felt it necessary to rebuild... like it or not. Had they gone out and gotten say Jackson and Sanchez (we'll pretend they could have), they still wouldn't have made the playoffs, and I doubt they would have made huge changes to the offense.

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    Moderator's note: Folks, we went from the Hughes signing to the possibly interesting tidbit that Hughes and Ryan did not talk, to a speculative question whether that reflected poorly on Ryan, to a further digression onto where negative reflection might correctly belong. Please, unless it bears on the Hughes signing, don't wander that far off in this thread - contribute to a different thread or start one of your own. This has already turned into needless bickering.

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    They may not have talked, but I have it from a good source that TR and Hughes texted, tweeted, IM'ed, and used Snapchat prior to the signing.

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    I don't get the "they didn't talk" stuff. That's not unusual. Players hire agents for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    Isn't there a middle ground between your astute points and Thry's abolutism on the matter? I would hope that the "Twins Way" has already involved Gardy/Andy and multiple team leaders privately and publicly welcoming Hughes aboard an organization taking a big bounce off of Rock Bottom. This is the biggest "feel good" offseason week for the club since Mauer was extended. Can't celebration of the biggest and then second biggest contract in Twins history invoke, you know, more of a celebratory tone and less of a shotgun wedding vibe?
    This is just speculation but I think TR was trying to disarm the reporters in terms of them jumping on bad a year Hughes had last year. I say this because he prefaced the conversation with something to the effect that Phil had a bad year but went on to talk about the great things that he had done and even mention that he is a physical specimen. Actually he said he was 6'5 / 240. He was trying to build him up but this type of thing is not TRs strength. He had the right idea but the delivery was not great.

    Where them not speaking prior is concerned. Hughes is also pretty resevered and perhaps even introverted. It may have been his preference to let his agent do the talking. It could be that they feel Anthony has very good negiotiating skills so they are giving him a shot after having difficulty in getting FAs to come here.

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