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    Article: Twins Add Four to 40 Man Roster


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    bit surprised on Achter. Guess the Twins didn't want to risk losking Kepler and Polanco.

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    Pretty much what I predicted, including the Hermsen drop. Think they wanted to sneak him through waivers. I just had Wimmers and Oliveros slightly ahead of Darnell if healthy, which they might not be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
    bit surprised on Achter. Guess the Twins didn't want to risk losking Kepler and Polanco.
    I have a feeling Achter may be the next Slama in the sense that he will continue to put up good numbers in the minors but will never get a fair shot in the majors.

    I watched him pitch in the AFL and came away thinking he will have a tough time in the majors. He throws four pitches, but his fastball barely touches 90 so he relies a lot on deception and mixing his pitches.

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    Adding Darnell and trading for and keeping Kris Johnson on the 40-man roster seems kind of strange. Diamond and Albers are still on the list too. Seems like four guys are filling the same whim here.

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    No Achter? What? He was the most likely guy to be added!

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    Eric Fryer is not going to be more valuable than A.J. Achter. Good lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    No Achter? What? He was the most likely guy to be added!
    Nope. Vargas was. And he was added. Darnell too. And he was added. Achter? Not that sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    Eric Fryer is not going to be more valuable than A.J. Achter. Good lord.
    Yeah but that split deal he signed (like Tim Wood last season) meant that he has to be on the 40-man roster at least until opening day. Not sure I agree with what they did, but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Nope. Vargas was. And he was added. Darnell too. And he was added. Achter? Not that sure.
    Achter is the most likely player to be lost out of all of them.

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    I'm most suprised about Vargas.

    I think the twins feel even if someone takes Achter they have enough similar talents it doesn't matter. But I dont think he will be taken
    Last edited by clutterheart; 11-20-2013 at 04:13 PM.

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    I used to get all upset about this stuff, but generally speaking, they get it right... at least from the sense of actually losing players. Who is the last player they didn't protect that they actually lost to the other team? (I'm sure there have been, I just can't think of it)

    The report on Achter is right, though I think earlier in the year, he was closer to 92-93 with four pitches. I can't really argue with any of these picks.

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    I suspect Achter will be gone - selected by the Cubs in Rule 5 draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksaviking View Post
    Adding Darnell and trading for and keeping Kris Johnson on the 40-man roster seems kind of strange. Diamond and Albers are still on the list too. Seems like four guys are filling the same whim here.
    You can never have enough mediocre lefthanded pitching.

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    In other ridiculous news, the Twins signed a Clete Thomas clone in Chris Rahl. About to turn 30 and has never been in the majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    In other ridiculous news, the Twins signed a Clete Thomas clone in Chris Rahl. About to turn 30 and has never been in the majors.
    He will get his "well-deserved" cup of coffee at some point in 2014.

    Anotan Richardson signed elsewhere,so they need that AAA Filler for when guys get hurt.

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    Protected Polanco, Kepler, and Vargas from the likes of Astros, Cubs, ....

    Darnell - LP at AAA - likely to be plucked in Rule 5

    Once they sign two FA pitchers - who gets dropped:
    - Albers?
    - Johnson?
    - Duensing - not offered arb?

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    It would seem that the Astros and Cubs have their own roster decisions to make with their own players and are not going to use a roster spot on a guy who would then need one or two years back down in the minors.

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    Nothing surprising here. I'm not too worried about Achter - he walked a lot of batters and we have depth in the bullpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    It would seem that the Astros and Cubs have their own roster decisions to make with their own players and are not going to use a roster spot on a guy who would then need one or two years back down in the minors.
    Carrying a prospect on the 40 man roster for two years is normal.

    The twins will carry Polanco, Kepler, and Vargas for at least two years before they get a sniff of MLB.

    There are many examples of guys taken in Rule V while in Class A - Johann Santana, Jorge Bell, ..

    Bell had to play for the Jays as a 21 year old, was in AAA the next year and most of the following year. Three years after being taken in the Rule 5 draft, he started a streak of nine years averaging over 20 HRs a year.

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