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    Article: 2013 Twins Minor League All Star Team


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    Danny Santana gets the snub!

    Especially since as you noted, there is little chance of Polonco sticking at SS. And last time I looked, Polonco only played SS when Goodrum was hut.

    Santana is probably the only hope this Organization has at SS for in house talent for at least 2-3 years. I have him in my personal top 10.

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    The most overlooked part of the organization in which I think are the true All Stars - are the minor league coaches. These players are all great talents, but to have the improvements that Sano; Rosario; Walker; Hicks; Williams; Buxton; etc. have made in 1 years time is very impressive.
    *Sano's average jumped from .258 to .350+ in a year.
    *Rosario improved as a second baseman to the point where he was nearly the best in FSL
    *Walker improved his strikeout rate from 30% to 20%
    *Hick was able to stay healthy (trainers) and show true talent
    *Williams as noted improved his OBP to new heights (able to show off his speed more)
    *Buxton was able to go from a kid with great tool potential to "Mr. Baseball"

    The Twins minor coaches have done an incredible job in taking these kids to new levels and nurturing their talent in the best interest of the Twins long term. Just think of where they can be next year if they progress at their current rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutterheart View Post
    Danny Santana gets the snub!

    Especially since as you noted, there is little chance of Polonco sticking at SS. And last time I looked, Polonco only played SS when Goodrum was hut.

    Santana is probably the only hope this Organization has at SS for in house talent for at least 2-3 years. I have him in my personal top 10.
    He's been and will be in my personal Top 10 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightfoot789 View Post
    The most overlooked part of the organization in which I think are the true All Stars - are the minor league coaches. These players are all great talents, but to have the improvements that Sano; Rosario; Walker; Hicks; Williams; Buxton; etc. have made in 1 years time is very impressive.

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    The Twins minor coaches have done an incredible job in taking these kids to new levels and nurturing their talent in the best interest of the Twins long term. Just think of where they can be next year if they progress at their current rates.
    Very good point! The Twins do have very good instructors in most of their minor league system. Obviously the guys in Elizabethton (Ray Smith and Jeff Reed for sure) are tremendous. I got to know the Cedar Rapids coaching staff and their knowledge of the game, and their ability to get people to learn is remarkable. To watch them work (Jake Mauer, Tommy Watkins and Gary Lucas) is really something! Their enthusiasm is great to watch! Obviously Doug Mientkiewicz and long-time big leaguer Jim Dwyer know a ton about pitching. Ivan Arteaga gets great reviews from people I've talked to. Gene Glynn has an eye for talent, and the personality to fit in well at that AAA level. His job for so long was scout and talent evaluator. He just knows what he's doing.

    Thank you for pointing this out!

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    Lightfoot789 you make a very good point. The difficulties at the major league level have masked the excellence of our minor league organization and our scouting for that matter. I had the same thought, if they could just show the same progress next year. But in reality, they will show the same progress every year. The only change is since June of 2012, we are now drafting at the top, instead of near the bottom. The organization has always been in place.

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    Maybe the Twins should look at promoting more than just players in the near future.

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    Hicks would be in RF. Best arm on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardkr34 View Post
    Hicks would be in RF. Best arm on the team.
    I'll take Walker's 15 more HRs & 40+ more RBIs (per season) and his position worthy arm in RF. He's a better fielder than most might believe. Hicks is a far better fielder, but Walker will win more games for you in the course of a full season. IMO . In terms of Runs scored. Walker was second in the Midwest League in that category. So - He brings more to the table as an overall player. IMO .

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    Sorry, I was referring to that projected September 2014 lineup; Hicks in RF instead of Rosario. As far as Walker goes, he needs to get to at least AA before his prospect status really takes off. He was a college player who spent his entire season in low A. He'll be a 22-year-old in High-A to begin next year. Hicks was in AA and doing well at the same age.

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    Plan: Move all the guys on this list to AAA under Gene Glynn. After the All Star break, move them all (including Glynn) to the major league club. Keep Dozier, Pinto and Mauer, plus most of the relief staff.

    How am I doing so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardkr34 View Post
    Hicks would be in RF. Best arm on the team.
    I prefer him in LF just because there is more room to cover, and in my opinion, range is more important in the outfield. Also, Rosario has a very good arm too and enough to play RF. So, my choice is based on range, but Hicks definitely has a rocket for an arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo92107 View Post
    Plan: Move all the guys on this list to AAA under Gene Glynn. After the All Star break, move them all (including Glynn) to the major league club. Keep Dozier, Pinto and Mauer, plus most of the relief staff.

    How am I doing so far?
    I had a similar thought. If this team played the big league club in a 3 game series, who would in more games?

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    What of the SS position for the future with regard to Polanco? Seth, do you think that the Twins are just playing Santana and Goodrum at SS instead of Beresford and Polanco, respectively, because they know the latter two can play SS but they think the ceiling is higher for the first two and SS is in dire straights?

    I do think that Polanco is firmly above Goodrum at this point overall, so that question kinda doesn't make sense. But still, what gives? Is Santana really going to be a SS? If it doesn't work there for him, then he seems to be immediate trade material.

    Same for Polanco. I *really* like Polanco though. He is still very young and the bat has not only come around, but and thensome.

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    For that matter, Polanco is pretty much Rosario-esque in so many ways outside of OF capability. Look at Rosario's 2012 numbers at A- and Polanco's 2013 numbers there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sconnie View Post
    I had a similar thought. If this team played the big league club in a 3 game series, who would in more games?
    The minor leaguers would win, hands down. Might be a blowout. We are talking about two of the best players in the world (Buxton and Sano) right now. The MLB Twins are an average AAA team. They would get beat by a hungry, and uber-talented, minor league squad.

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    The minor leaguers would win, hands down. Might be a blowout. We are talking about two of the best players in the world (Buxton and Sano) right now. The MLB Twins are an average AAA team. They would get beat by a hungry, and uber-talented, minor league squad.
    Come on. Buxton and Sano are two of the best MINOR league players in the world. They are far, far away from being the best players in the WORLD. Depends on pitching obviously, but I would money on the major league team 2 out of 3 if not 3 out of 3. Anything else is pure silliness.

    This is like saying the Alabama Crimson Tide would beat the Jacksonville Jaguars. Fun to think about, but no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangevening View Post
    Come on. Buxton and Sano are two of the best MINOR league players in the world. They are far, far away from being the best players in the WORLD. Depends on pitching obviously, but I would money on the major league team 2 out of 3 if not 3 out of 3. Anything else is pure silliness.

    This is like saying the Alabama Crimson Tide would beat the Jacksonville Jaguars. Fun to think about, but no chance.
    In fairness, this would be more like the Jags playing the SEC All Conference players. And I'd bet on the SEC (ignoring small details like Football is much more of a "team" sport, so the SEC players would struggle without ample practice time)

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    That's about right for the position players. Only difference is that I would have given 1B to Kennys Vargas. Very similar numbers with DJ Hicks (bit more power, bit less BA, OBP within 10-15 points), only Vargas got them all in Ft. Myers and is a year younger than Hicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottsilvi View Post
    In fairness, this would be more like the Jags playing the SEC All Conference players. And I'd bet on the SEC (ignoring small details like Football is much more of a "team" sport, so the SEC players would struggle without ample practice time)
    1. Alabama IS the SEC All-Conference team essentially. 2. The Jaguars would destroy the SEC All Conference team. You are talking older, physically matured players who are playing against college kids. Wouldn't be close, I don't care how bad the pro team is. This is how it works in contact sports.. However, in baseball? The Twins playing this team would be interesting. And entertaining!

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