09-08-2013, 04:13 PM #1
Article: Twins Minor League Report (9/8): Red Wings Season Ends (6 players recalled)
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09-08-2013, 05:07 PM #2
So many questions.
So.....they've already counted out Deduno to start out the season in the rotation in 2014?
Re:Ramirez...how many guys get 60-dayed twice in the same season?
How does Martis (definition of mediocre journeyman) get added to the 40-man over Ibarra?
No more Mauer at catcher this year, now that Fryer is called up, even though there aren't enough ABs for the catchers we already have up, why Fryer?
6-man rotation from here on in with both Diamond and DeVries back up?
09-08-2013, 05:28 PM #3
Picture DeVries out of the bullpen.
Yes, why Eric Fryer (shades of Rene Rivera getting mad when he wasn't called up, Herrmann was, last year).
Why not Beresford.
The only redeeming grace is hat guys added to the 40-man before the end of the season can be removed. Those added when rosters are set later in November can't be removed until after spring training, I believe.
But nothing excited here. Why Martis, for example. I would've added situational lefty Thompson.
Yes, the old days used to add journeymen at season's end if you were a team like The Senators so guys could get some pension qualifications and such, or maybe a minute showcase. But at this stage of the game, if they aren't going to benefit the Twins in 2014 or beyond, why do this.
Be interesting to see if Deduno is like Oliveros, and get's designated after season's end and resigns with the Twins.
Hey, we saw the Rd Wings play in Minnesota this year!
Pitchers: Albers, DeVries, Deduno, Diamond, Gibson, Hendriks, hernandez, Thielbar, Tonkin, Worley, Robertson.
Cathers: Herrmann, Butera, Fryer, Pinto.
Infielders: Parmelee, Colabello, Escobar, Bernier.
Outfielders: Hicks, Arcia, Ramirez, Thomas, Mastroianni.,
09-08-2013, 06:06 PM #4
I'm completely on board with Mauer not catching any more this year, so I'm fine with Fryer getting a few at bats, backing up Herrmann and Pinto. They already said that Doumit likely won't catch the rest of the year either.
I'm sure they'll do a 6-man rotation. They should.
09-08-2013, 06:33 PM #5
09-08-2013, 06:36 PM #6
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Do they platoon Parmelee and Colabello? The must have a plan for him by calling him up. I know the sample and data is to small to have meaning. They must have assessed that Parmelee has made some adjustments.
Doumit not catching they rest of the year. I hope that will continue into next year.
Why 6 man rotation? Why start Pelfrey? He only auditions for free agency. The Twins must have assessed by now whether the would like to resign him.
How much time will they give Escobar at SS? Is it a given the Florimon should be the starter?
Hicks not recalled. I don't think it decreases the likelihood that he will start in the majors next year. Time off from a challenging year may help.
More arms in the pen. They might look to shutting down Burton. They need him to be better next year. They unnecessarily extended him last spring. He was under control for this year before the extension. Is he still worth 3.25 and 3.6 team option for 2014-2015?
09-08-2013, 06:39 PM #7
I would love to see Beresford get a chance, but Florimon and Dozier are going to play most days, and Bernier and Escobar will play other times. Escobar will likely get a handful of starts at 3B too. Beresford played very well for the Red Wings this year, but can't call up everyone.
Lots of guys from this 40 man roster will likely be removed, including Martis and Fryer. You're right, guys added in November can't be removed until sometime in spring training.
Thompson had a nice year, but again, the Twins have Perkins, Duensing and Thielbar, and plenty of other lefties.
As for Deduno, I think that at this point, they would lose him if he was removed from the 40 man. They took a calculated risk last year with him and won. Oliveros had Tommy John, Deduno may have some shoulder stuff done. Very different. I'd be shocked if Deduno was DFAd.
09-08-2013, 06:40 PM #8
09-08-2013, 07:17 PM #9
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Now what? Twins minor league season is over. Nothing left, only MLB Twins. And that is not much to follow. Kind of sad. In a lot of ways.
09-08-2013, 08:08 PM #10
I am surprised they recalled so many guys. I guess you can't have too many catchers, but five? I know, I know, Mauer and Doumit won't catch much or at all the rest of the year. Martis? He was finishing games for the Red Wings, but with one of De Vries, Hernandez, and Diamond going to the bullpen (my pick is Hernandez), there's really no need to add anyone else besides Tonkin. Parmelee didn't hit much in Rochester and didn't start the last two playoff games. While he wasn't the biggest failure on the Twins this year, it looks to me like he blew his last clear opportunity--things happen and if you hang around you might get another shot--but I just don't think the Twins will clear a spot for him again. The Twins probably won't admit it, but Escobar will be under team control for another year--I'm sure that factored into their decision to send him down and keep him down. I have said this before and I'll keep saying it--I can't get excited to see players so lacking in power that outfields cheat in like the hitter is a Little Leaguer and Beresford fits that mold.
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09-08-2013, 09:00 PM #14
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Definitely some interesting names. I wouldn't get too worried about the guys being put on the 40 man that don't belong. No one was DFAd for this, so think of it as a really nice bonus for some hard work. These guys will get DFAd in short notice, so let them enjoy their cups of coffee and have a story they can tell their kids some day.
Hicks will NOT be in Minnesota next year. His lack of a callup should make that clear. CF next season will belong to Presley unless Hicks forces the issue. I'm fine with that, as I'd like the Twins to give Presley a full year to see what he can do. If he can figure things out, worst case is that you can trade him to make room for Hicks. If he doesn't, he becomes the 4th OF of the future when Hicks is ready.
09-08-2013, 10:07 PM #15
........the Twins try to find work for other prospects if they are interested. Sometimes they suggest to a player that winter ball will benefit them.
The word is that the Twins would like to have outfielder Aaron Hicks play winter ball this offseason, and they have a spot lined up for him in Puerto Rico if he wants it. There are no indications that Hicks will play. Hicks was the Opening Day center fielder but was sent to Rochester after batting .192 in 81 games.
09-08-2013, 10:40 PM #16
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09-08-2013, 10:46 PM #18
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No Romero for September. I'm a little surprised. Even though I've stated before that I don't expect him to produce much as a major leaguer, I thought they might give him a look just on general principles, especially with Plouffe having left the door ajar for a competitor to take his job at third.
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09-08-2013, 11:17 PM #20
Diamond has earned his recall, I agree with you on that one. But at the MLB level, he still pitched down to many of our regression expectations; and at this point, it's still essentially a crapshoot for whether he's destined to rebound in 2014 to something close to his 2012 numbers, or conversely, if he's on the Blackburn track (without the fat contract).