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    Quote Originally Posted by PseudoSABR View Post
    Ryan Braun is a piece of ****. The Lance of Armstrong of baseball. Even Arod has more class.
    Something tells me when this is all said and done, that second statement won't seem true anymore.

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    Couple things to think of.

    Voiding contracts is a bad idea. Craig Calceterra wrote an interesting piece for HBT on this one. It seems good at first until you try to flush it out.

    I wonder how quickly the other dominoes should fall. With the exception of A-Rod, who hampered the investigation, I would think anyone else named should be asking for the same penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
    Couple things to think of.

    Voiding contracts is a bad idea. Craig Calceterra wrote an interesting piece for HBT on this one. It seems good at first until you try to flush it out.
    I guess I never thought it would be an automatic void -- unless there is a permanent ban from baseball due to repeated offenses.

    I always thought it should be that the team would have the option of voiding the contract. Other choice would be to keep the contract in place. Third option would be for both parties to renegotiate.

    But I really do think that the teams deserve some protection on the long term contracts. There is something fundamentally wrong about being stuck with a long-term contract obtained by a player under false pretenses. (I'm not naive enough to think that team management doesn't have some suspicions at times but that's different than a violation of the policy).

    And I would also guess that peer pressure is going to be the best regulatory device there is. There will always be cheaters but peer pressure is a powerful thing. After all, isn't that the reason so many cheat in the first place (a/k/a everybody is doing it)?

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    If the teams want some protection on long term contracts, they should put protection in those long term contracts when they make them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer07 View Post
    If the teams want some protection on long term contracts, they should put protection in those long term contracts when they make them.
    I don't disagree with that but we've never heard reports of that type of clause in an mlb contract. Have to wonder if the MLBPA would previously not allow it or if the teams thought testing was protection enough or if agents would never agree.

    I kind of think there must be more to that part of the story.

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    I think it's because baseball contracts are all guaranteed money. Plus with no salary cap, there's no reason to have voidable, non-guaranteed contracts. This is why small-market teams can't compete with big market teams over the long haul.

    If Evan Longoria or Joe Mauer get busted, there's no coming back for TB or the Twins. If Robinson Cano gets busted, the Yankees can go buy a different second baseman.

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    Make a cheap offer quick, Mr Ryan. I'd love Braun if LF next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diehardtwinsfan View Post
    Something tells me when this is all said and done, that second statement won't seem true anymore.
    And I think someone's going to be eating his second statement words sooner, rather than later.

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