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    Article: Twins Top 10 Prospects: Post-Draft Edition


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    Pretty good - there are teams that would be thrilled to have your HMs.

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    Kohl is not even signed and is a top 5 prospect. Well, that's hype for ya! For me, I think an important factor that is left out of the "prospect" equation on individual team's lists, is how fast they get to or can get to the MLB team. With most lists, they are devalued as they get more MLB ready (except the ones that include all the teams, perhaps), where as they actually become more valuable as they get closer to contributing, like Arcia (who may not really get to be called a prospect now). Kohl Stewart, for the very fact that in the Twins organization he is at least 3 years away, and more likely 4 or 5 or even 6........ well, his value is not as great in my mind. Kyle Gibson, as the pitcher most ready to actually contribute, would be surely ahead of Stewart for the Twins. But I respect your post and offering, for sure.
    Last edited by h2oface; 06-13-2013 at 02:47 AM.

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    If only half these guys pan out, then the next decade will be a lot of fun for Twins fans.

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    Nice to see 5 thru 8 were starting pitchers.

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    I don't get how Gibson keeps getting that low relative to other pitchers. We are pretty much 100% certain he is a MLB starter, I don't know we know that about Berrios or Meyer for sure yet. I get that they might have a higher upside, but we don't really know their floor. But, that's really a nit, generally the list looks good (both how you ranked them, and that the list has good players on it).

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    Prospect lists have to balance ceiling with certainty and each ranking takes them into account differently. Guys like Sickels value certainty while rankings from someone like KLaw value ceiling. This list would tend to be a little closer to the latter. Nothing wrong with that.

    It'll be interesting to see where Stewart ends up on the national lists this off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    I don't get how Gibson keeps getting that low relative to other pitchers. We are pretty much 100% certain he is a MLB starter, I don't know we know that about Berrios or Meyer for sure yet. I get that they might have a higher upside, but we don't really know their floor. But, that's really a nit, generally the list looks good (both how you ranked them, and that the list has good players on it).
    You don't know that. The Twins wont promote him so it is impossible to know that. Potential is weighed heavily in prospect lists, that is the nature of the sport. Coming into the year I would have had Arcia as the number one prospect because of how well he performed at such a young age. The reason people are rating Buxton so high is because his ceiling right now is a HOF player, same can be said about Sano. Imagine 3 HOF players on the Twins at the same time! That assumes Mauer gets in, which I think he should. Gibson doesn't have a lot of projection left yet either. We know what he is, and his stuff looks to be better than a #3 pitcher, but not a #1.
    Do or do not. There is no try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    I don't get how Gibson keeps getting that low relative to other pitchers. We are pretty much 100% certain he is a MLB starter, I don't know we know that about Berrios or Meyer for sure yet. I get that they might have a higher upside, but we don't really know their floor. But, that's really a nit, generally the list looks good (both how you ranked them, and that the list has good players on it).
    Agreed. Kyle Gibson's delivery has some of the same precision and balance as Mark Appel. Gibson will be the team's ace pitcher the moment he ascends the mound at Target Field.

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    We do not know anything....but if you had to bet right now, which non-Kohl pitcher do you think is more likely to have a good MLB career, who would you bet your life on?
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Gibson is underrated but I will take Meyer and Stewart above him. I would also bump Stewart into the #3 spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo92107 View Post
    Agreed.Gibson will be the team's ace pitcher the moment he ascends the mound at Target Field.
    Agreed but all that basically means is that he has a pulse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    We do not know anything....but if you had to bet right now, which non-Kohl pitcher do you think is more likely to have a good MLB career, who would you bet your life on?
    Do I have to bet my life? Can I bet somebody else's life on it instead?

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    Hmmm mine are:
    Buxton
    Sano
    Arcia
    Rosario
    Meyer
    Berrios
    Stewart
    Gibson
    Pinto
    Kepler

    Ceiling alone, I'd but Stewart 3, but is dropped with the certainty factor and how far from majors in my rankings.

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    I like Stewart, but I am not putting him ahead of Gibson, Meyer, or Berrios. He is just ahead of May for me. I am rather surprised that so many are willing to put Stewart on such a pedestal.

    I don't think the Twins drafted well in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so my top 60 prospect list isn't going to change all that much because of the draft. I will put Eades somewhere, of course, and Turner, but the latter's very realizable floor is Danny Lehmann. His ceiling is past Butera, but I don't know how much higher.
    Last edited by Shane Wahl; 06-13-2013 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoPilgrim View Post
    Do I have to bet my life? Can I bet somebody else's life on it instead?
    Sure, but only if you place a value on it.
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    We do not know anything....but if you had to bet right now, which non-Kohl pitcher do you think is more likely to have a good MLB career, who would you bet your life on?
    J.O. followed by Meyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    I like Stewart, but I am not putting him ahead of Gibson, Meyer, or Berrios. He is just ahead of May for me. I am rather surprised that so many are willing to put Stewart on such a pedestal.

    I don't think the Twins drafted well in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so my top 60 prospect list isn't going to change all that much because of the draft. I will put Eades somewhere, of course, and Turner, but the latter's very realizable floor is Danny Lehmann. His ceiling is past Butera, but I don't know how much higher.
    People said this last year with Buxton. How did that turn out? Elite talent is elite talent no matter what level they are at. I don't see the point of knocking Stewart just because he hasn't played in the minors yet.

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    Strib reporting Navaretto and Turner have signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by launchingthrees View Post
    J.O. followed by Meyer
    You are braver than me....gibson is in AAA, and appears ready to be a number 3 starter in the majors in the next year or so. JO is in low A, and some scouts feel his FB is too straight. You, sir, are brave.
    Lighten up Francis....

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