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    Article: Game Thread: Twins vs Phillies, 6/11 - 7:05pm


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    Lineups:

    Twins:
    Jamey Carroll 3B
    Joe Mauer C
    Ryan Doumit RF
    Josh Willingham DH
    Justin Morneau 1B
    Oswaldo Arcia LF
    Brian Dozier 2B
    Clete Thomas CF
    Pedro Florimon SS
    (P.J. Walters P)

    Phillies:
    Michael Young 3B
    Ben Revere CF
    Jimmy Rollins SS
    Ryan Howard 1B
    Domonic Brown LF
    Delmon Young DH
    John Mayberry RF
    Freddy Galvis 2B
    Humberto Quintero C
    (Cole Hamels P)

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    Against a lefty, this is going to be interesting to see who is in the lineup. Herrmann doesn't have much of a split difference over the past two seasons, whereas Thomas really did in 2012. And the other options in RF are Arcia, Parmelee, and Doumit.

    I would prefer Willingham-Herrmann-Parmelee, with Doumit DHing (and letting Arcia rest one game). But I bet it is Willingham-Thomas-Doumit with Arcia DHing.

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    Thomas needs to be on a very short leash. If he keeps hitting like he has been known to, than I want to see Hermann and Arcia get all of his at bats. I know Thomas is our "only" CF but he still needs to hit the ball or it won't matter that he is a good average CF. also he is not a prospect and does not need checked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COtwin View Post
    Thomas needs to be on a very short leash. If he keeps hitting like he has been known to, than I want to see Hermann and Arcia get all of his at bats. I know Thomas is our "only" CF but he still needs to hit the ball or it won't matter that he is a good average CF. also he is not a prospect and does not need checked out.
    I agree and honestly, who cares about Clete Thomas going forward? If Chris Herrmann is an adequate and ultimately 3rd CF, that is a nice advance for Herrmann in his career as then a C and a utility outfielder.

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    Agreed, I'd love to have Hermann prove that he's an adequate PH/backup CF/backup catcher. He's had some nice moments so far. I hope he gets to play a lot while Hicks is out.

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    This could be the worst defensive OF lineup in decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Ratio View Post
    This could be the worst defensive OF lineup in decades.
    Cuddyer started a handful of games in center field. Trust me, those were worse.

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    In 2008 and 2013

    RF: Kubel >> Doumit

    CF: Cuddyer < Thomas

    LF: DYoung > Arcia


    Toss up.

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    I gotta do some coaching tonight so I'll be Glorm like and join the game thread late... I just want to say... Worley has been a disappointment and May is struggling with his control but I still make that trade out of necessity.

    As for Revere... He hasn't hit that well this year but I still miss watching him play. I will be secretly hoping he puts on a show of some sort in the next 3 games... Hopefully all the other Phillies tank so I'm comfortable hoping good things for Ben.
    A Skeleton walks into a bar and says... "Give me a beer... And a mop".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Ratio View Post
    In 2008 and 2013

    RF: Kubel >> Doumit

    CF: Cuddyer < Thomas

    LF: DYoung > Arcia


    Toss up.
    If you're giving >> to Kubel over Doumit, then you have to also say:

    Thomas >>>>>> Cuddyer

    Cuddy was a pretty bad right fielder whose only good attribute was his arm. He was an absolutely atrocious center fielder, the most important position in the outfield. Cuddyer's career dWAR is -13, most of it as a corner outfielder. That's horrendous.

    Also, Delmon's career dWAR is nearly -9 and he's not even close to 30. I'll take Arcia any day.

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    First thing you notice about the Twins OF is the wide shot at the start of the game...they're all playing with their ass against the fence.

    I'd really like the Twins to start playing their OFers shallower in most situations. I realize that's not likely to happen, since they've been doing that throughout the Gardy era, but I can wish.

    As to who's playing the corners, unless they're absolutely terrible, it just doesn't matter that much.

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    pj! pj! pj!

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    WTH happened to Hamels? 2-9? 4.56 era?

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    I was at the Sunday evening game agains the Nats -- get Herrman in the lineup as much as possible. He looked like the only one out there who was fired up and wanted to play ball.

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    Small ball. Good job Joe, get that runner in scoring position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Ratio View Post
    Small ball. Good job Joe, get that runner in scoring position.
    Yep. More exciting to let them die at 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima Ratio View Post
    Small ball. Good job Joe, get that runner in scoring position.
    I know that's what I look for in a 23M per year player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I know that's what I look for in a 23M per year player.
    I look for him to make whatever play his coach asks him to make based on the field situation. Although it's unlikely Gardy put the sign on there anyway.

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    Tough room

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