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    Klaw: Astros reverse course and taking Moran

    Insider needed: Houston Astros take Colin Moran over Mark Appel in second mock draft of 2013 - MLB Draft - ESPN

    Figured it was good enough news to get it's own thread.

    One way it makes sense for the Astros could be if they think Manaea could slide into the 2nd round where they could give him 3.5m fairly easily.

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    Wow...

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    For us cheapskates without access...does KLAW have us taking Bryant, then, or one of the college arms?

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    Stewart over Gray......which confuses me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCTwins View Post
    For us cheapskates without access...does KLAW have us taking Bryant, then, or one of the college arms?
    Beats me, don't have insider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmb0252 View Post
    Stewart over Gray......which confuses me
    Wow. I guess its just a hypothetical but if they really happened, I'd be pretty angry.

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    Stewart over Gray... odd. Similar ceilings with one being a lot closer to the show. Kind of strange.

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    I think they would take Gray then......but it is possible they would have a shot at Appel....would they pass twice?

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    They have to be betting on someone sliding to them. Maybe they will try to work a deal out prior to the draft and tell Manaea's agent they will give him a bunch of money. I could see it working out for them.
    Do or do not. There is no try.

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    Given a projected close upside (as I've read) and ease of signing, it seems Gray is a safer choice than Appel.
    Cannot imagine Gray falling to #4.

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    Keith Law's mock draft 2.0
    We're just one week away from the Rule 4 draft, and draft boards are starting to take shape. There will still be some adjustments before Thursday night, and I'll have two more mock drafts between now and then.

    For now, here is my best projection for the top 33 picks in the draft -- the formal first round, plus the six compensatory picks teams received for losing free agents who received qualifying offers this offseason. You'll notice the absence of Indiana State lefty Sean Manaea, who was considered a top-five talent coming into the season. His performance all spring was uneven and he walked off the mound with a hip injury while warming up for his final start a week ago, and no one has a great feel for his status right now. Indiana State's season is over, so scouts won't get another chance to see him before the draft.

    (To see my the first mock draft from two weeks ago, click here. For a complete look at my ranking of the top 100 draft prospects, click here.)

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    Colin Moran
    POS: 3B
    B/T: R/R
    HT: 6-3
    WT: 215
    School: North Carolina

    Analysis: I don't think the Astros will make a formal decision on this pick until Thursday, but the buzz within the industry has Houston leaning toward this scenario: Houston takes Moran, knowing his next-best alternative is to go No. 5 to Cleveland, whose slot value is $3,787,000. By doing this, the Astros could offer him $4 million or so and know he'd accept it.

    The value of the No. 1 pick is $7.2 million, which means the Astros would then have sufficient savings to take first-round talents who fell at picks 40 and 74, something they've already shopped around to some prep players who aren't going in the top 33.

    They could take Jonathan Gray but won't get as much of a discount if they do. They're not on Kris Bryant or Clint Frazier, and Mark Appel doesn't seem to be one of their top two options.
    SCOUTING REPORT | VIDEO Video

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    Mark Appel
    POS: RHP
    HT: 6-5
    WT: 215
    School: Stanford

    Analysis: Appel or Gray. I've heard Theo Epstein loves Gray, but overall the Cubs have a real internal debate between the two options. Without a clear inclination toward either guy, I've assigned them the player I think is better.
    SCOUTING REPORT | VIDEO Video

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    Kris Bryant
    POS: 3B/OF
    B/T: R/R
    HT: 6-5
    WT: 215
    School: San Diego

    Analysis: They've been linked to Bryant all spring, and the industry discussion has had them on hitters. But would they take Gray if he were here? I can't see Gray falling far, with a floor at No. 6. (No way does Miami scouting director Stan Meek, an Oklahoma native who played at OU, pass on a Sooner as good as Gray.)
    SCOUTING REPORT | VIDEO Video

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    Kohl Stewart
    POS: RHP
    HT: 6-3
    WT: 190
    School: St. Pius X (Houston)

    Analysis: This will be Stewart, Gray or Washington prep catcher Reese McGuire on a well below-slot deal.
    SCOUTING REPORT | VIDEO Video

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    Jonathan Gray
    POS: RHP
    HT: 6-4
    WT: 239
    School: Oklahoma

    Analysis: I've heard them on Bryant and Moran all spring, and Chris Antonetti flew to Georgia to meet with Clint Frazier earlier this week, but I think they'll take Gray if he falls to them.
    SCOUTING REPORT | VIDEO Video
    Last edited by InfraRen; 05-30-2013 at 11:48 AM.
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    Was unaware of the pay-article posting policies, sorry!
    Last edited by InfraRen; 05-30-2013 at 11:48 AM.
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    Ditto.
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    This is pay information so you can't post it here. Only little bits and pieces.

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    Indians fans are drooling on their keyboards right now.

    I also don't know why the Twins would choose Stewart over Gray if the latter dropped that far.

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    If Gray drops, ya gotta take him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgoat_MN View Post
    Given a projected close upside (as I've read) and ease of signing, it seems Gray is a safer choice than Appel.
    Cannot imagine Gray falling to #4.
    I have heard the opposite, actually. Appel's mechanics are regarded as flawless and has two plus pitches and two other that are considered above average. Gray has a better fastball and maybe more upside due to that, but definitely not "safer."

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    I also don't know why the Twins would choose Stewart over Gray if the latter dropped that far.
    I've read several scouting reports that Stewart has the highest ceiling of the three Appel/Gray/Stewart he's just further away. Gray is still far enough away that time
    to majors is not a factor in helping this team and therefore no factor in picking him.

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    The one thing I would take from this - the Twins must REALLY like Stewart if Law projects him over Gray. Law is pretty plugged in. Makes me feel even better about our chances of taking him if Big 3 DO go as previously expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70charger View Post
    Indians fans are drooling on their keyboards right now.
    Standard operating procedure for them, is it not.

    Also:
    get-a-brain-morans.jpg

    Free advice to the Astros, that.

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